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So, the polls say move towards independence, or at least keep status quo
I know math is hard. But this is basic arithmetic. 67% of the population responded with no interest in independence at all. Since my original comment was about "independence vs. status quo" that means (excluding the non response data of 6.6%) you have 67% favoring status quo over the data even leaning towards independence at 21.9 + 4.4 = 26.3%.
Now I grouped "status quo and decide at a later date" with status quo. So, I'll argue for your case. So for your own arguments sake I'll steelman you as that data being "unknown". It's the middleground take. I think that's the only fair steelman. Since they already responded with "status quo". But, let's say that's just "undecided" people. For the sake of your argument.
That still leaves
67.0% - 26.3% = 40.7%of Taiwanese people preferring status quo OR unification. With only 26.3% preferring status quo OR independence.I know it's hard to read graphs. But, wtf mate, how do you fuck that up so badly? It's just HARD status quo. You pretending that there is a large independence portion is just showing your own bias.
Again, my original comment wasn't about unification. It was about maintaining the status quo. Which the vast majority of Taiwanese people are in favor of in some form. 67% as of latest polls to be exact.
Edit: all my numbers are taken from the last part of the graph. Just to clarify.
Then that graph doesn't make sense or do we see different data?
Edit: so the top 3 want status quo, either indefinitely, decide later, or towards independence.
Moving towards unification is pretty much one of the lowest ones
yeah their point is that, as seen in the 2022 changes, the invasion of ukraine has made “maintain status quo forever” the most popular option—and made “status quo first and move towards independence” and “decide later” (which is leaving open the possibility of moving towards independence) trend downwards. nobody is disagreeing that unification has always been unpopular
it’s worthy of note that 33.5% against 23% means the latter (status quo and move towards independence) is still a substantially popular opinion, but the person you’re replying to is correct that maintain status quo indefinitely has an incredible plurality