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Well, this is quite upsetting to read. (thelemmy.club)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/justpost@lemmy.world
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More (not so) fun facts:

54% of American adults read below a 6th grade level.

21% read below a 5th grade level, which is considered functionally illiterate.

High immigration numbers don't fully explain it either, as first gen immigrants only make up about 1/3 of those with low literacy.

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[–] 2 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

liberal parents also hate critical thinking. it's not a partisan issue.

i live an in ultra liberal city and the parents are 100% against critical thinking here too. they just want their orthodoxies taught instead of conservative ones.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (9 children)

    If you can produce official platform comments that the Democratic party was against critical thought like the Republicans are on record saying then I could believe you.

    Otherwise I am going to chalk it up to your excessive devil's advocate nonsense.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    Democratic party supports identity politics. that's the antithesis of critical thinking.... lol

    one of the key reasons Harris' campaign was so terrible and was poorly supported was her active embrace of ID politics above common sense economics. to the point that many minorities didn't support her because they recognized how backwards Democratic were on immigration and other social issues.

    and the Dems continue to support his nonsense despite how incredibly unpopular it makes them.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, that is what I thought.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    So you think ID politics is critical thinking?

    Or is critical thinking... not judging people by their race and sex, but evaluating them on their individual merits and circumstances, each with their own set of concerns?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    No, that you were just playing devil's advocate with nothing to back you up.

    You are confusing critical race theory with critical thinking. I had a heck of a time researching this because all that would pop up in a search was critical race theory. It was annoying.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    No, the democrats are doing that.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The people of the democratic party are playing devil's advocate or they are confusing critical race theory for critical thinking on web searches?

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    The democratic platform, nationally, has mistaken pushing/promiting ID politics as policy, (of which CRT is one subset) for critical thinking or improving economic conditions for people regardless of their race, sex, or nationality.

    It was a hallmark policy of Biden's administration to create discriminatory policies that did nothing to help working-class voters, and largely benefited well-off minorities and women from the upper 5-10% of the economic spectrum. Because that's who promotes ID politics... a small group of well-off people who are totally disconnected from the average non-college going American.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Identity_Trap

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    This is definitely confusing critical race theory and critical thinking. Although, I will admit you can't get to critical race theory without critical thinking so that is perhaps where our conservations meet in a roundabout way.

    ID politics is a common political accusation that conservatives groups like to cry about. Unfortunately for them, they are the worst about ID politics using a number of wedge issues like abortion and of course their rural religious obsession to define their voting platform. Conservatives are the literal definition of ID politics hence why they project onto others. Every accusation is a confession definitely holds true here.

    As with most things the concept of identity politics itself came from academics to describe how people can effectively organize. Like the term woke it was stolen by people who are incapable of understanding it and then demonized like conservatives love to do.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    You have no idea what teaching critical thinking actually is, do you? It’s teaching thought exercises tin elementary that make students evaluate how they form their opinions and how to vet sources, in college or AP high school it turns into critical theory and trying write irrefutable dissertations of your position. It isn’t just CRT and it sure isn’t “identity politics“ though identity politics (which is an abhorrent term btw) can be defended through critical theory, see Judith Butler for instance. Anyhow you’re kinda dumb.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Oh I know that people who use insults to try and 'win' arguments are not people who know what critical thinking is.

    And you are completely wrong about what critical thinking is, and proving my very point that it's been turned into nonsense indoctrination treating Judith Butler type figures as geniuses when they are hacks who's work is based on the thesis denying critical thinking is even possible, because we are all trapped by our race or sex or nationality and to be evil beings.

    Judith Butler's and her cohorts work is basically taking the concept of original sin in Christianity, and just replacing the word 'sin' with race or sex. It's a dogmatic belief system.

    If you had critical thinking skills you'd be able to recognize that. Critical thinking doesn't lead to belief systems. It tears them down. If you are trying to create a belief system or teach it as truth, you are not engaging in i critical thought, you are indoctrinating people. And one way to do that is to shame, shun and harass the non-believer.

    You are believer.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Where and when does Butler state in any of their works that we are “trapped” by race or gender, etc. It’s on you to challenge her dissertations academically. That’s the whole freaking point of critical theory as a whole. It’s why weirdos like Jordan Peterson can’t win actual intellectual arguments against Žižek in an actual academic setting and have to result to grifting on X and youtube. FOH, you’re clearly mentally challenged and reactionary.

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