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'Colluding in Broad Daylight': Trump Praises Louisiana Governor for Suspending Elections (www.commondreams.org)
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cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/46440

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[–] 28 points 3 months ago (7 children)

When are Americans actually going to use their 2A rights for something other than performative bullshit?

Seriously, this is the kind of shit the law was created to stop.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    lol it's easy to sit from outside and go "do something" when in reality you would never lift a finger in violence against your government because unless you have nothing left to lose, it's not a winning bet

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Have you seen how the French reacted to the raising of retirement age? They literally threw a bathtub through their executives home window. Americans should be dragging politicians through the streets by their entrails with all the shit that's been happening but they willingly just keep letting it happen with no actual recourse.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I agree, they should be taking more direct action to confront their leaders. America is nothing compared to France in terms of protests. They have grills that are built to slide onto the metro tram rails so they can feed the protestors as they move down the street, since they do it so much.

    I'm just saying the OP brought up 2A, and that's a pretty final solution that there's no coming back from if you go that route. Protest is one thing, assassination with firearms is a completely different thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    "Violence isn't the answer, until it's the only answer left"

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Luckily I think America still has many disruptive, non-assassination-based responses left. We're quickly careening towards that point, but I think we're still decently far away from all out violence like that. To be honest I don't think it'll ever get to that point in the MAGA time period. I really really hope I'm right.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not directing people to go do something.

    I'm openly wondering why, in a country with a law that was designed to literally protect the people from tyranny (which I think cancelling elections counts) nobody is doing anything.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    The hierarchy of needs is being met sufficiently that going against the system providing them is scary, especially when you’re likely to die doing it.

    Same reason the bear runs when the cat chases it. Not worth the fight.

    I’m not saying this is how I believe, just this is what I believe the general reason is.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Exactly, everyone is still too comfortable to take such drastic action. That's fortunate because it means society hasn't broken down to the point of people starving and what not (which I don't think it'll ever get to that point in the near term). But it's unfortunate that everyone is still too comfortable to take action.

    Actually, millions of people are taking action in protests, petitions, local referendums, etc. but not many people want to take the most drastic action as they have too much to lose (e.g. their life). I want the regime to fall and face real justice without violence, but the regime is pushing everyone to get violence so they can crack down even harder against any dissent. We're speedrunning to Putin's playbook.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's hard. I'm a minority living quite far away with multiple guns, and to get to DC with them and close enough to leverage them would be basically impossible.

    I have them for any impending civil war against neighbors or otherwise, because I feel like that's coming.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    impending civil war against neighbors or otherwise

    We need to be making coalitions with our neighbors and otherwise. We stand no chance if we cannot stand together.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    This is the text:

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The intent is pretty clear. It's been muddled by idiots through history, but it's obviously to have militias armed, trained, and ready for when an enemy attacks. At the time, most nations relied on militias for their military. Professional standing armies were reserved for the wealthiest nations, and even they usually supplemented them with militias. The USA was a new nation of farmers. It did not have the budget to have a professional military. They wrote the 2nd amendment clearly for this purpose.

    This isn't to say people shouldn't do what the charlatans have said it's for. Obviously they should if/when it's needed (not making a claim about now, that's for the reader to decide).

    I also support gun rights, though I think they should be more regulated and require training and safe storage. The 9th amendment protects this.

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