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After three months on Linux, I don’t miss Windows at all (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Look, if a guy at the Verge can use Linux then that means almost anyone can.

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  • [+] -6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Random blokes at The Verge do not have the same use cases as anyone else. "Works for me" is never the same thing as "works for you". Linux doesn't even have a good vector graphics editor. (No, Inkscape is not good.)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Indeed! This is why I always call to explore live images or a VM before making the jump. It won't be indicative of the system's performance (a regular install should run smooth as butter), but it will indicate what you might be lacking, what problems you may face, etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Affinity can be installed on Linux via WINE just fine. There's even a repo for it. Fusion360, of all things, also works the same way. WINE is not just for gaming

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Can you link what you are talking about for Fusion360 by chance? I've tried repeatedly and it always seems to be broken at the part where it wants to open a web browser so you can log in... I ended up running Fusion in WinBoat, but it just isn't as performant so I would love a Wine solution instead.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    @Crozekiel @bitfucker Maybe we should all just switch to FreeCAD (easier said than done).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I've tried it a few times, and like... it's frustrating because I can get so close, but the missing bit feels like an impenetrable wall. Like, I can occasionally make something, but it isn't anywhere near as nice of a model/part and it takes significantly longer to do. I tend to try it out again once every several months to see if new stuff makes it easier for me to use, but so far it hasn't been a great solution for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Ahh, you have the new install. Yes that is a known issue. I was installing it before they did the switcheroo with their custom distribution QT6 webview (the root cause of the issue). If you have the old install it still works just fine

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, Inkscape is not good.

    What are some areas that you think Inkscape can improve? (Other than "be more like what I'm used to".)

    I use Inkscape all the time, and have created amazing things with it.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I don't rule out the possibility that a lot of it is simply down to what I'm used to. I've used the Affinity suite from the start, and the way Inkscape works (much like GIMP) isn't quite so... how should I put it? "Idiot-proof". I'm a hobbyist; I don't do this professionally. A slightly more "normal" interface would be a strong argument for people like me to give Inkscape another chance.

    Otherwise, I perceived the application as feeling unfinished; it crashed on me occasionally and/or felt sluggish. I get it: there's little money behind Inkscape for quality assurance, and you can't expect FLOSS to have people working full-time on optimising the user experience. But then why use Inkscape at all? Because it's "the best there is on Linux"? That brings us back to my original point: why switch to Linux in the first place?

    There are reasons why Wine exists. One of those reasons is that free software has a quality problem. Am I completely off the mark here?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    it crashed on me occasionally and/or felt sluggish.

    I am surprised to hear this. I have used Inkscape for years, and I do not remember it ever crashing on me or it feeling anything but snappy. But I am using it on a very capable machine. I am not saying what you say is untypical (or untrue), just that our experiences with it are very different, and that could explain our different views on it. Do you remember how much free RAM Inkscape had to work with when you used it? Maybe that could have been a limiting factor for Inkscape that caused the sluggishness and the crashes.

    Sometimes developers simply do not know about bugs or limitations that only happen with specific hardware, that they just do not own. That is why they really value people telling them about these things.

    But then why use Inkscape at all?

    The value of Open Source is more than just "it is free" and "you can look at the code". It is the only software that you truly own. It is the only software that humanity truly owns, forever. It is the software that emerged from humanity, yours to use however you like. Nobody (not even the developers themselves) can ever take it away from us, not even a little bit.

    Developers contributing to FLOSS often just want to help make really good software. That is their end goal. Not profit, not user numbers. Just good software. Is it going to be the best software there is, right from the start? Of course not. But when you keep working on something with the sole goal of making it good, it will become better than anything that is made for profit.

    I believe that in the long run FLOSS becomes un-compete-able. Free and Open Source Software can have years or decades of hard work put into it. Trying to compete with that is an uphill battle right from the start, even within the Open Source world. Proprietary software trying to compete with established Open Source Software? Forget it. Nobody would switch to a proprietary for-profit SSH, even if it were faster. What if something breaks? How do you maintain it? If something breaks 10 years from now? 500 years from now? With Open Source Software, people can look at the code, and fix it. Unlike with proprietary software, where you rely on the original developer maintaining the software.

    why switch to Linux in the first place

    For me it is reliability.

    Something that can be maintained and patched by anybody is much more reliable than something that can only be maintained by a few. Open Source can always be fixed. Does Open Source Software break? Of course it does. Every bigger piece of software has bugs, or develops bugs with changing hardware. But with Open Source Software anybody can fix the bug. Being able to rely on this, is very valuable when you need something to work, and can not afford it to break forever. This is why Hollywood loves Open Source Software.

    free software has a quality problem.

    I am reading this as "a quality control" problem.

    I do not think FLOSS has a quality control problem. The most reliable software in the world is FLOSS. It has a lack of variety in contributors problem (including bug reporting for when something does not work on specific hardware!). Most contributors to FLOSS are software developers, not UX/UI designers. I do not want to say that software developers can not make good UX/UI designs, but the limited time that FLOSS contributors dedicate to this results in users experiencing a lack of polish in many smaller projects.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Go make one then?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sure thing, because that's exactly a one-person job.

    Seriously, please try to not be that person on the internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I'll be whatever person I like thanks.

    And most open source software starts as a one person job. And as you approach something that other people see the value in, you'll likely attract people who will help.

    For the most extreme example, see the Linux Kernel itself.

    Someone has to start the ball rolling, and if it's something you want, it may as well be you.

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