▲ 92 ▼ Hot Take: 5e is too bloated with unnecessary rules and should be simplified (ttrpg.network) submitted 3 years ago by TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network 162 comments fedilink hide all child comments I recommend this video to look more into OSR philosophy regarding the rules: https://www.youtube.com/live/bCxZ3TivVUM?si=aZ-y2U_AVjn9a6Ua
[+] partyparrot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Xariphon@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Seriously. 5e is already a watered-down, anemic shadow of what 3.5 was... and this is too complex? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Being less complex than 3.5 isn't indicator of being simple, that bar is on the floor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Xariphon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago I would say there are plenty of systems that fail at being less complex than 3.5. If I never have to do GURPS math again, for instance... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dice@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not the complexity. It's the bloat, terrible interactions and game dynamics. 3.5 didn't suffer from gm burn out, but 5e does. Because 5e is a bigger mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 3 points 3 years ago Not on 3.5 per se, but I had years long GM burnout after running my first Pathfinder 1e campaign. Bad memories from it were what actually kept me from giving Pathfinder 2e a chance for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Seriously. 5e is already a watered-down, anemic shadow of what 3.5 was... and this is too complex? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Being less complex than 3.5 isn't indicator of being simple, that bar is on the floor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Xariphon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago I would say there are plenty of systems that fail at being less complex than 3.5. If I never have to do GURPS math again, for instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Being less complex than 3.5 isn't indicator of being simple, that bar is on the floor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Xariphon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago I would say there are plenty of systems that fail at being less complex than 3.5. If I never have to do GURPS math again, for instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago I would say there are plenty of systems that fail at being less complex than 3.5. If I never have to do GURPS math again, for instance... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dice@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's not the complexity. It's the bloat, terrible interactions and game dynamics. 3.5 didn't suffer from gm burn out, but 5e does. Because 5e is a bigger mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 3 points 3 years ago Not on 3.5 per se, but I had years long GM burnout after running my first Pathfinder 1e campaign. Bad memories from it were what actually kept me from giving Pathfinder 2e a chance for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGreatDarkness@ttrpg.network [S] 3 points 3 years ago Not on 3.5 per se, but I had years long GM burnout after running my first Pathfinder 1e campaign. Bad memories from it were what actually kept me from giving Pathfinder 2e a chance for a long time. permalink fedilink source parent