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[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago (13 children) Yes but humans are not wolfs. Each behave differently. permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 21 points 4 months ago (6 children) Primates also have territories, and chimps, one of our closest relatives, have wars over them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 child) And they're so much smarter than us, we saw no reason to change such a winning strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 months ago As a whole, humanity is still just a bunch of angry apes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago* (3 children) and bonobos, chimpanzee's closest relatives have found evolutionary strategies that work without wars. we have changed our ways of eating and living before, we can again. all we need, as a society, is the imagination to remake ourselves as we have before permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago We have so much extra food we don't even really need to change much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* There is a study from 2024 that says bonobo chimpanzees can be even more agressive than Gombe chimpanzees https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)00253-7 Edit; Sync did not play nice with the link. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago* um... sorry but no, bonobos are as prone to extreme violence as any other chimps. They've even been seen to form groups and beat to death problematic (or in one case just unpopular) members of the community. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah, humans are two wolves. Way different psychology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] espurr@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago We have to feed the good wolf... permalink fedilink source parent [–] CheetahHybrid@pawb.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's not accurate. Humans behave very predictably in most cases permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago The generally and predictably do not like borders and keep crossing them. You know, passwports in modern society. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago Speak for yourself. There are two wolves inside me --one of them respects boundaries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Humans, seemingly uniquely among animals, reinvent and reimagine our political lives constantly. We see no evidence that chimpanzees have revolutions or that wolves will try a different model of organization or negotiation. What we observe from H. sapiens is just this. From the beginning of history both written and oral, we have been reevaluating and altering the ways in which we live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 21 points 4 months ago (6 children) Primates also have territories, and chimps, one of our closest relatives, have wars over them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 child) And they're so much smarter than us, we saw no reason to change such a winning strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 months ago As a whole, humanity is still just a bunch of angry apes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago* (3 children) and bonobos, chimpanzee's closest relatives have found evolutionary strategies that work without wars. we have changed our ways of eating and living before, we can again. all we need, as a society, is the imagination to remake ourselves as we have before permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago We have so much extra food we don't even really need to change much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* There is a study from 2024 that says bonobo chimpanzees can be even more agressive than Gombe chimpanzees https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)00253-7 Edit; Sync did not play nice with the link. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago* um... sorry but no, bonobos are as prone to extreme violence as any other chimps. They've even been seen to form groups and beat to death problematic (or in one case just unpopular) members of the community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 child) And they're so much smarter than us, we saw no reason to change such a winning strategy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 months ago As a whole, humanity is still just a bunch of angry apes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 months ago As a whole, humanity is still just a bunch of angry apes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago* (3 children) and bonobos, chimpanzee's closest relatives have found evolutionary strategies that work without wars. we have changed our ways of eating and living before, we can again. all we need, as a society, is the imagination to remake ourselves as we have before permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago We have so much extra food we don't even really need to change much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* There is a study from 2024 that says bonobo chimpanzees can be even more agressive than Gombe chimpanzees https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)00253-7 Edit; Sync did not play nice with the link. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago* um... sorry but no, bonobos are as prone to extreme violence as any other chimps. They've even been seen to form groups and beat to death problematic (or in one case just unpopular) members of the community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago We have so much extra food we don't even really need to change much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* There is a study from 2024 that says bonobo chimpanzees can be even more agressive than Gombe chimpanzees https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)00253-7 Edit; Sync did not play nice with the link. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago* um... sorry but no, bonobos are as prone to extreme violence as any other chimps. They've even been seen to form groups and beat to death problematic (or in one case just unpopular) members of the community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah, humans are two wolves. Way different psychology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] espurr@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago We have to feed the good wolf... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] espurr@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago We have to feed the good wolf... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheetahHybrid@pawb.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's not accurate. Humans behave very predictably in most cases permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago The generally and predictably do not like borders and keep crossing them. You know, passwports in modern society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago The generally and predictably do not like borders and keep crossing them. You know, passwports in modern society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago Speak for yourself. There are two wolves inside me --one of them respects boundaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Humans, seemingly uniquely among animals, reinvent and reimagine our political lives constantly. We see no evidence that chimpanzees have revolutions or that wolves will try a different model of organization or negotiation. What we observe from H. sapiens is just this. From the beginning of history both written and oral, we have been reevaluating and altering the ways in which we live. permalink fedilink source parent