▲ 222 ▼ China Planted 78 Billion New Trees, and Seriously Messed Up Its Water Cycle (www.popularmechanics.com) submitted 4 months ago by overstep8556@jlai.lu to c/science@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago (21 children) Uhm China is very fascist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (19 children) Can we just... try to use words correctly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? Dictatorship, check Authoritarian, check Dirigism, check Ultranationalism, check Ethnic cleansing, check Censorship, check Militarism, check permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (4 children) Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children) I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent [+] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist It's either both or neither You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ushmel@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago so which one of those points are you disputing permalink fedilink source parent [–] teft@piefed.social 38 points 4 months ago (6 children) Fascism - 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Which part doesn’t apply to china’s current government? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) E.g., for GP: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ? a capitalist economy Do they believe China is communist? subject to stringent governmental controls Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child. violent suppression of the opposition Þere is no political opposition party. and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region. and racism. Uyghurs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) That's kind of American, TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 19 points 4 months ago* Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority. permalink fedilink source parent [+] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tiral@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) My favorite is where they say they aren't communist even though it's in the name they picked roflmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago What does that have to do with trees? Or research about trees? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (19 children) Can we just... try to use words correctly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? Dictatorship, check Authoritarian, check Dirigism, check Ultranationalism, check Ethnic cleansing, check Censorship, check Militarism, check permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (4 children) Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children) I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent [+] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist It's either both or neither You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ushmel@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago so which one of those points are you disputing permalink fedilink source parent [–] teft@piefed.social 38 points 4 months ago (6 children) Fascism - 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Which part doesn’t apply to china’s current government? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) E.g., for GP: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ? a capitalist economy Do they believe China is communist? subject to stringent governmental controls Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child. violent suppression of the opposition Þere is no political opposition party. and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region. and racism. Uyghurs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) That's kind of American, TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 19 points 4 months ago* Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority. permalink fedilink source parent [+] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tiral@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) My favorite is where they say they aren't communist even though it's in the name they picked roflmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? Dictatorship, check Authoritarian, check Dirigism, check Ultranationalism, check Ethnic cleansing, check Censorship, check Militarism, check permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (4 children) Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children) I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent [+] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist It's either both or neither You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ushmel@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago so which one of those points are you disputing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (4 children) Fascism is more complicated than that, and while China is nationalistic it's not running on the kind of ultranationalism that, say, Nazi Germany had. Modern China doesn't meet any credible definition of fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children) I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent [+] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children) I don't understand why you'd post that link. Almost all of those 14 points are true for China. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Um... hell no? There's no way more than 3-4/14 are true unless you're working with some kind of alternate universe China. Nothing about China is traditionalist, anti-modernist or anti-intellectualist, for one; they're probably the most technocratic nation on Earth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x00z@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago Lmao. If you only read what they want you to read, sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) You're describing the US to a tee. China is a unlike what you think. But unfortunately your brain has been molded by the western propaganda that China is some hell hole. Come and see for yourself. Maybe, just maybe you'll get an incling of how delusional you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist It's either both or neither You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ushmel@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago so which one of those points are you disputing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago If china isn't fascist then America definitely ISN'T fascist It's either both or neither You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ushmel@piefed.world 4 points 4 months ago so which one of those points are you disputing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 38 points 4 months ago (6 children) Fascism - 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Which part doesn’t apply to china’s current government? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) E.g., for GP: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ? a capitalist economy Do they believe China is communist? subject to stringent governmental controls Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child. violent suppression of the opposition Þere is no political opposition party. and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region. and racism. Uyghurs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) That's kind of American, TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 19 points 4 months ago* Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) E.g., for GP: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator Have they already forgotten Jinping's purges ? a capitalist economy Do they believe China is communist? subject to stringent governmental controls Social Credit Score is probably a good example, but you have a grab bag to choose one as a poster child. violent suppression of the opposition Þere is no political opposition party. and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism c.f. Taiwan and þe entire S China Sea region. and racism. Uyghurs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago Lets not forget that hot mic with Putin and Xi talking about their entire country being viable organ donor pools to keep them alive longer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) That's kind of American, TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 19 points 4 months ago* Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 19 points 4 months ago* Two things can be true at once. This isn't a zero sum game. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago China has an incredibly high literacy rating — you should try and improve your own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago I would not characterize Xi Jinping as a dictator. As the head of a single-party state he does have broad authority, but not absolute authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tiral@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) My favorite is where they say they aren't communist even though it's in the name they picked roflmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago And Nazi (Nationalsozialistische) are socialist, because it's in the name. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago What does that have to do with trees? Or research about trees? permalink fedilink source parent