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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

tell me, materially or rhetorically, results of hasan existence?

The normalization of pro-Palestinian politics, the normalization of anti-imperialist and anti-war positions, the mainstreaming of socialist theory, the radicalization of millions of demoralized Gen Zers who might otherwise fall into right-wing traps

Whether you like it or not the face of American socialism is a buff handsome Turkish man who can and does articulate almost all our talking points to the mainstream

But all of that is supposed to be trumped because he interviews Illhan Omar and AOC? Lenin once wrote a whole book about why this kind of mal-prioritized thinking is counterproductive

[-] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Years ago now Hasan was the guy who pulled my now adult (then teenager) son towards communism and in the process of it all this radicalized me, his dad and the ripples of it keep going around in my family affecting all the libs. We have all moved further left than Hasan long ago, but he was one big influence in why I am now pursuing Marxist academic work and my son is reading Stalin.

For what it's worth my kid has told me that there was a time where he could have gone another way, some of the streamers he was watching before Hasan ended up in dark places. My son is very online and I am forever grateful for a voice like this in a sea of right wingers and the fact that this is what my kid ended up watching.

[-] blunder@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Hell fuckin yeah

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

normalized by palestinian journalists. existence of hasan is known by 16% of seppos, yet entity is opposed by 46%, riddle me this.

anti-iraq war protests had more coherent anti-war positions (due to being republicans-led war)

gen-z will fall where they fall pending on labor market.

i like or ambivalent that he is handsome, i just doubt he spreads socialist action theory fitting the moment or does anything differently from previous failures.

[-] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i just doubt he spreads socialist action theory fitting the moment or does anything differently from previous failures.

To defend Hasan, he played a large role in getting Zohran elected. Is Zohran a revolutionary Marxist-Leninist? No. But did Zohran personally get Trump to release multiple pro-Palestinian activists from prison? Yes. Those comrades would be in prison right now if it were not for Zohran and probably Hasan's endorsement of him. You you can't say he has has not done anything different than other similar fugures, that statement is materially false.

fitting the moment

I really am curious to know what your example of "fitting the moment" is. In our techno-feudal modern age, all information streams are controlled by billionaires - your message will never reach the masses unless your words remain within the limits set by those billionaires. And considering the low level of class consciousness the average American has, do you believe "revolution now" is a good message that "fits the moment?" If America has a revolution now, it will inevitably turn into a fascist revolution.

Nobody in America is even protesting the Iran war now, despite the high gas prices and lack of propaganda effort from the Trump administration. Are these the people who would support, or possibly join, a socialist revolution? I think the best we can hope for in the USA, in the short-term, is an FDR like figure ushering in a New "New Deal" era, which historically did not make America a socialist state but did lead to many other countries in the global periphery launching left-wing projects - Mexico under Cardenas nationalizing Pemex for example. Would it not be a good idea to take the Eye of Sauron off of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc. by electing a social democrat / democratic socialist who could enact a "Good Neighbor" 2.0 policy?

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