▲ 662 ▼ Defediverse (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by w00t@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 573 comments fedilink hide all child comments EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)
[+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago* (3 children) There are numerous democratic socialists who are in Congress, you just aren't paying attention. Run for office. There have been many spoilers from genuine grassroots campaigns. Don't want to do either? Keep coping and seething online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Entryism always ends up changing the entrant instead of the system. We are revolutionary socialists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever. You're not a revolutionary socialist, you're a larper who won't do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it's the second coming of Christ. You guys are the QAnon of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago How does any of that disagree with what he said? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) I'm talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago The purity test of having the wherewithal to oppose the economic system killing the earth and everyone on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I too support democratic socialism Allende just needed more people's militias permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 years ago* Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago* (3 children) There are numerous democratic socialists who are in Congress, you just aren't paying attention. Run for office. There have been many spoilers from genuine grassroots campaigns. Don't want to do either? Keep coping and seething online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Entryism always ends up changing the entrant instead of the system. We are revolutionary socialists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever. You're not a revolutionary socialist, you're a larper who won't do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it's the second coming of Christ. You guys are the QAnon of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago How does any of that disagree with what he said? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) I'm talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago The purity test of having the wherewithal to oppose the economic system killing the earth and everyone on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I too support democratic socialism Allende just needed more people's militias permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 years ago* Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Entryism always ends up changing the entrant instead of the system. We are revolutionary socialists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever. You're not a revolutionary socialist, you're a larper who won't do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it's the second coming of Christ. You guys are the QAnon of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago How does any of that disagree with what he said? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever. You're not a revolutionary socialist, you're a larper who won't do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it's the second coming of Christ. You guys are the QAnon of the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago How does any of that disagree with what he said? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 years ago Present some options that have broad appeal and would be accepted by the proletariat. I don't know if you've looked around the US, but the voting proletariat generally find centrist policies to be "far left". How do you have your people's revolution without the people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 3 years ago How does any of that disagree with what he said? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) I'm talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago The purity test of having the wherewithal to oppose the economic system killing the earth and everyone on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) I'm talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago The purity test of having the wherewithal to oppose the economic system killing the earth and everyone on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] uralsolo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago Don't forget to send me a text when the revolution starts, comrade. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 years ago The purity test of having the wherewithal to oppose the economic system killing the earth and everyone on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I too support democratic socialism Allende just needed more people's militias permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 years ago* Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 years ago* Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 years ago* Wow, you mean the US will just destroy you no matter how much you play by their rules, and that all that handwringing about evil communism is just bad-faith obfuscation from the world-eating vampire class to mislead their billions of victims? Wild. permalink fedilink source parent