▲ 1182 ▼ Pope says people being ‘defrauded by the rich’ in latest forceful sermon (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 4 months ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to c/world@lemmy.world 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago (2 children) So? One can be part of the issue whilst addressing it. He’s an influential person, would you rather have him not say anything about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HaunchesTV@feddit.uk -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) It would certainly seem less disingenuous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -18 points 4 months ago* (1 child) So? I'm speaking up. Things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up, right? He's fucking vile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 child) You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago But if he proclaimed the opposite, it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -23 points 4 months ago (2 children) So? He's a piece of shit, and his church is evil incarnate. How about he starts paying taxes like the rest of Earth? You may be fine with thieving rapists sharing their opinion about other thieving rapists, that's your right. And it's my right to point out what they are and what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) This is the most TikTok/Instagram politics comment I've ever read on here blud. The world is not black and white. If you live in America why don't you sell everything and go back to the UK since it is all stolen land? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2025/01/more-than-5-billion-spent/ This is who you are defending. Disgusting And I'm native, so why don't you stop fantasizing about me, and while we're at it, maybe, just maybe, stop defending pedophiles ETA note that the study is self-reported... so God knows how much bigger the real problem really is. Many certainly lie, as always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago* You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like "All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished". The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that's because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don't have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence. Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world This is who I am defending. You can use a translator https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/ https://www.fides.org/it/stats permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're not wrong, I just want to ask - pay taxes to whom? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* It depends on their location. In USA, they don't pay property taxes, with more benefits than any secular non-profits. Property taxes are how many states fund their schools, infrastructure, and more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HaunchesTV@feddit.uk -1 points 4 months ago (2 children) It would certainly seem less disingenuous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -18 points 4 months ago* (1 child) So? I'm speaking up. Things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up, right? He's fucking vile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 child) You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago But if he proclaimed the opposite, it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 child) True, but things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -18 points 4 months ago* (1 child) So? I'm speaking up. Things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up, right? He's fucking vile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 child) You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -18 points 4 months ago* (1 child) So? I'm speaking up. Things will never change if nobody is allowed to speak up, right? He's fucking vile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 child) You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (1 child) You’re not speaking up. You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -6 points 4 months ago* (1 child) You’re not speaking up. Wrong! You’re trying to silence the guy who’s speaking up. Ridiculous. One person on Lemmy can't silence the Pope by responding to his latest press release. I know what my motivation is... and believe me, it's not "trying to silence the Pope". You’re also just posting something on a niche forum with maybe a few hundred like-minded people at best viewing your comment. In what world is that speaking up? You can speak up with only ONE person viewing/listening to your comment. How do you not know this? Also, I haven’t seen him do a lot of vile stuff yet, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. His organization is evil and revolting with centuries of horrifying history, and truly unspeakable acts to this day. But, you can suck up to whatever billionaire organizations that you'd like to, don't let me dissuade you. I like watching your efforts to defend a massive, multinational organization that has robbed communities for many generations. It's funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* Ok Donald. Nice straw man arguments. Is that all you got? K, here we go: I never said you succeeded in silencing him, but you sure are trying. No, speaking up is sticking your neck out. Preaching to the choir is just complaining. And I’m not defending, let alone sucking up to any billionaire organisation. If anything, you are, by trying to silence the guy speaking up against them. Perhaps the only wise decision you could make after this clusterfuck of a comment of yours is to stop your pathetic attempt to frame me and stop embarrassing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago But if he proclaimed the opposite, it would be worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -23 points 4 months ago (2 children) So? He's a piece of shit, and his church is evil incarnate. How about he starts paying taxes like the rest of Earth? You may be fine with thieving rapists sharing their opinion about other thieving rapists, that's your right. And it's my right to point out what they are and what they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) This is the most TikTok/Instagram politics comment I've ever read on here blud. The world is not black and white. If you live in America why don't you sell everything and go back to the UK since it is all stolen land? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2025/01/more-than-5-billion-spent/ This is who you are defending. Disgusting And I'm native, so why don't you stop fantasizing about me, and while we're at it, maybe, just maybe, stop defending pedophiles ETA note that the study is self-reported... so God knows how much bigger the real problem really is. Many certainly lie, as always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago* You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like "All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished". The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that's because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don't have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence. Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world This is who I am defending. You can use a translator https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/ https://www.fides.org/it/stats permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're not wrong, I just want to ask - pay taxes to whom? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* It depends on their location. In USA, they don't pay property taxes, with more benefits than any secular non-profits. Property taxes are how many states fund their schools, infrastructure, and more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) This is the most TikTok/Instagram politics comment I've ever read on here blud. The world is not black and white. If you live in America why don't you sell everything and go back to the UK since it is all stolen land? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2025/01/more-than-5-billion-spent/ This is who you are defending. Disgusting And I'm native, so why don't you stop fantasizing about me, and while we're at it, maybe, just maybe, stop defending pedophiles ETA note that the study is self-reported... so God knows how much bigger the real problem really is. Many certainly lie, as always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago* You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like "All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished". The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that's because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don't have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence. Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world This is who I am defending. You can use a translator https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/ https://www.fides.org/it/stats permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2025/01/more-than-5-billion-spent/ This is who you are defending. Disgusting And I'm native, so why don't you stop fantasizing about me, and while we're at it, maybe, just maybe, stop defending pedophiles ETA note that the study is self-reported... so God knows how much bigger the real problem really is. Many certainly lie, as always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago* You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like "All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished". The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that's because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don't have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence. Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world This is who I am defending. You can use a translator https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/ https://www.fides.org/it/stats permalink fedilink source parent
[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago* You really lack the ability to understand that not all priests are pedophiles bro. Your logic is like "All killers drink water, therefore water is a problem and must be abolished". The non sequitur is huge! About the link you sent, of course they will have spend money on a lawyer, but that's because 1. a process is needed to find out if an allegation is actually true and 2. Everyone has the right to defend themselves in court because, again, a process and an investigation are needed to find out the truth. The worst dictatorship is the one where alleged criminals don't have rights even during trial and before getting a sentence. Also, thanks to Pope Francis, if a priest is a pedophile, it will have to get processed by the state and not by the Vatican. The times when pedos in the church just got sentenced to 5 years isolated into monastery have ended in most countries in the world This is who I am defending. You can use a translator https://www.agensir.it/quotidiano/2025/6/16/poverta-in-italia-caritas-277-775-persone-assistite-nel-2024-626-in-10-anni-in-aumento-working-poor-e-anziani/ https://www.fides.org/it/stats permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're not wrong, I just want to ask - pay taxes to whom? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* It depends on their location. In USA, they don't pay property taxes, with more benefits than any secular non-profits. Property taxes are how many states fund their schools, infrastructure, and more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* It depends on their location. In USA, they don't pay property taxes, with more benefits than any secular non-profits. Property taxes are how many states fund their schools, infrastructure, and more. permalink fedilink source parent