▲ 267 ▼ I feel for Cassanda (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago* by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] dan@literature.cafe -41 points 4 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml [S] 51 points 4 months ago* You don't have to agree with the regime to know US/Israeli attempts to over throw it will be worse for the Iranian people. The external contradiction facing Iran must be overcome before the internal contradictions can be resolved. There is no social growth under imperial boots. If you are claiming to be a communist then please apply material analysis permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago (3 children) If you oppose the Iranian government, do you think whatever replaces it will be better if Mossad and the CIA overthrow it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) I mean, that's how we got here, so I guess doubling down will only take us to where we are, but with extra effort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) The current government overthrew the US backed monarchy, so in a way it was caused by US intervention but indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's not my reference. I'm saying CIA backed the current authoritarian state of Iran when the left was gaining ground in Iran through democracy. The first example most people cite when the subject is "why don't you like CIA". Second is likely Pinochet in Chile. Same play book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago What makes them fascist in your view? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago 2003: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Iraq! 2004: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Afghanistan! 2011:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Libya! 2015:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Syria! 2022:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Palestine, free Palestine from Hamas! What does siding against the governments of these places mean? Oh right, in every case it means siding with the rapacious genocidal US empire. How interesting of you to leave that out, you Totally Real Communist you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children) Who funded that regime coming into power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago if you guessed America... you would be correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago “Coming into power” is putting the cart before the horse. The odds of regime change don’t look good, and what would replace it hasn’t been decided. I doubt “crown prince” Reza Pahlavi is still a serious contender. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml [S] 51 points 4 months ago* You don't have to agree with the regime to know US/Israeli attempts to over throw it will be worse for the Iranian people. The external contradiction facing Iran must be overcome before the internal contradictions can be resolved. There is no social growth under imperial boots. If you are claiming to be a communist then please apply material analysis permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago (3 children) If you oppose the Iranian government, do you think whatever replaces it will be better if Mossad and the CIA overthrow it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) I mean, that's how we got here, so I guess doubling down will only take us to where we are, but with extra effort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) The current government overthrew the US backed monarchy, so in a way it was caused by US intervention but indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's not my reference. I'm saying CIA backed the current authoritarian state of Iran when the left was gaining ground in Iran through democracy. The first example most people cite when the subject is "why don't you like CIA". Second is likely Pinochet in Chile. Same play book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trolololol@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children) I mean, that's how we got here, so I guess doubling down will only take us to where we are, but with extra effort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) The current government overthrew the US backed monarchy, so in a way it was caused by US intervention but indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's not my reference. I'm saying CIA backed the current authoritarian state of Iran when the left was gaining ground in Iran through democracy. The first example most people cite when the subject is "why don't you like CIA". Second is likely Pinochet in Chile. Same play book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) The current government overthrew the US backed monarchy, so in a way it was caused by US intervention but indirectly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's not my reference. I'm saying CIA backed the current authoritarian state of Iran when the left was gaining ground in Iran through democracy. The first example most people cite when the subject is "why don't you like CIA". Second is likely Pinochet in Chile. Same play book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's not my reference. I'm saying CIA backed the current authoritarian state of Iran when the left was gaining ground in Iran through democracy. The first example most people cite when the subject is "why don't you like CIA". Second is likely Pinochet in Chile. Same play book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago What makes them fascist in your view? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago 2003: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Iraq! 2004: Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Afghanistan! 2011:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Libya! 2015:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Syria! 2022:Communists are against fascist religious tyranny in Palestine, free Palestine from Hamas! What does siding against the governments of these places mean? Oh right, in every case it means siding with the rapacious genocidal US empire. How interesting of you to leave that out, you Totally Real Communist you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children) Who funded that regime coming into power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago if you guessed America... you would be correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago “Coming into power” is putting the cart before the horse. The odds of regime change don’t look good, and what would replace it hasn’t been decided. I doubt “crown prince” Reza Pahlavi is still a serious contender. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago if you guessed America... you would be correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago “Coming into power” is putting the cart before the horse. The odds of regime change don’t look good, and what would replace it hasn’t been decided. I doubt “crown prince” Reza Pahlavi is still a serious contender. permalink fedilink source parent