▲ 341 ▼ Now where are you guys? (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago by cm0002@lemy.lol to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 26 points 4 months ago (6 children) The mental gymnastics people need to do to feel better about getting something for free against the wishes of the creator is so wild. Just own it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Mothra@mander.xyz 29 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's not always against the wishes of the creators. It's certainly against the wishes of whoever is making money out of it, and fair enough this is sometimes the creator but more often than not we are talking about a middleman, such as a publisher or big entertainment company. When I see piracy is depriving the creator of revenue directly, it always feels bad to me. When I see the creatives have been paid already, or have several income streams (and big ones at that too) and the only ones deprived of profit are the middleman companies.... Well... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -16 points 4 months ago (1 child) All of this is overthinking to try and justify it to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 child) Seems like you are doing a lot of overthinking to argue against piracy on the piracy community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) Surely, as in most modern games, the creators exact wishes is that nobody will be able to play it in a few years ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Well yes of course, we can't have the poor's playing games years after their made!! That loses us shareholder quarterly value!! They must buy a new game yearly. Thats why we make everything online only so we can shut servers down at will, are you new in this industry? Thats why we are going after emulation next. Can you imagine, poor's with access to millions of games 20-30 years old, with no subscription fees? The horror!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago You shall not own anything permalink fedilink source parent [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -9 points 4 months ago (1 child) Weird take permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Stupidest comment of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah, "the wishes of the creator" don't matter. They don't get to dictate how people use an idea they've shared, no matter how elaborate. If they want to keep it private, then don't share it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 4 months ago No shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) I love Warren Ellis's run of Moon Knight. The art, the writing, the themes, it's so good. It was only after I recommended it on MULTIVERSE that I was informed Warren Ellis is an asshole. He cheated on dozens of women at the same time, giving them career favours in exchange for sex. It was a sexually exploitative relationship that the women were not made aware of in advance. Good thing I didn't pay for it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've always meant to read some Moon Knight, is that a good place to start? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 4 months ago Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis's run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn't pay for because Ellis is a creepo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago I just assume all creators of things I enjoy will eventually be proven to be sex pests. It makes it much easier to justify piracy morally to myself. (/j) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah because corpo ai slop bots asked the "wishes of the creator" before they outright stole everything. Hardddddd eyeroll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago Did you reply to the wrong person? permalink fedilink source parent [–] maddie1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago My favorite is people who use “archival purposes” as an argument for having a dump of some shit like SMB + Duck Hunt cart for NES. That shit isn’t going anywhere man, you just want to play it for free and that’s ok. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 29 points 4 months ago (1 child) It's not always against the wishes of the creators. It's certainly against the wishes of whoever is making money out of it, and fair enough this is sometimes the creator but more often than not we are talking about a middleman, such as a publisher or big entertainment company. When I see piracy is depriving the creator of revenue directly, it always feels bad to me. When I see the creatives have been paid already, or have several income streams (and big ones at that too) and the only ones deprived of profit are the middleman companies.... Well... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -16 points 4 months ago (1 child) All of this is overthinking to try and justify it to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 child) Seems like you are doing a lot of overthinking to argue against piracy on the piracy community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -16 points 4 months ago (1 child) All of this is overthinking to try and justify it to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 child) Seems like you are doing a lot of overthinking to argue against piracy on the piracy community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 child) Seems like you are doing a lot of overthinking to argue against piracy on the piracy community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) youre a fed prove me wrong permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago You okay, lil bro? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) Surely, as in most modern games, the creators exact wishes is that nobody will be able to play it in a few years ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Well yes of course, we can't have the poor's playing games years after their made!! That loses us shareholder quarterly value!! They must buy a new game yearly. Thats why we make everything online only so we can shut servers down at will, are you new in this industry? Thats why we are going after emulation next. Can you imagine, poor's with access to millions of games 20-30 years old, with no subscription fees? The horror!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago You shall not own anything permalink fedilink source parent [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -9 points 4 months ago (1 child) Weird take permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Stupidest comment of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) Well yes of course, we can't have the poor's playing games years after their made!! That loses us shareholder quarterly value!! They must buy a new game yearly. Thats why we make everything online only so we can shut servers down at will, are you new in this industry? Thats why we are going after emulation next. Can you imagine, poor's with access to millions of games 20-30 years old, with no subscription fees? The horror!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago You shall not own anything permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago You shall not own anything permalink fedilink source parent
[+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -9 points 4 months ago (1 child) Weird take permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Stupidest comment of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Stupidest comment of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) What else should I say when you use "weird" as a counterargument? That's not rational, replying with a rational point doesn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) You didn't make a coherent argument in the first place... What am I supposed to counter, exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you need to tell yourself, lil bro permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -4 points 4 months ago* That's it, seethe and cope. Deep breaths. Edit: oops, you realized you outed yourself as being big mad and trolling through my history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah, "the wishes of the creator" don't matter. They don't get to dictate how people use an idea they've shared, no matter how elaborate. If they want to keep it private, then don't share it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -2 points 4 months ago No shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 8 points 4 months ago (2 children) I love Warren Ellis's run of Moon Knight. The art, the writing, the themes, it's so good. It was only after I recommended it on MULTIVERSE that I was informed Warren Ellis is an asshole. He cheated on dozens of women at the same time, giving them career favours in exchange for sex. It was a sexually exploitative relationship that the women were not made aware of in advance. Good thing I didn't pay for it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've always meant to read some Moon Knight, is that a good place to start? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 4 months ago Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis's run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn't pay for because Ellis is a creepo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago I just assume all creators of things I enjoy will eventually be proven to be sex pests. It makes it much easier to justify piracy morally to myself. (/j) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I've always meant to read some Moon Knight, is that a good place to start? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 4 months ago Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis's run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn't pay for because Ellis is a creepo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 4 months ago Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis's run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn't pay for because Ellis is a creepo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago I just assume all creators of things I enjoy will eventually be proven to be sex pests. It makes it much easier to justify piracy morally to myself. (/j) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yeah because corpo ai slop bots asked the "wishes of the creator" before they outright stole everything. Hardddddd eyeroll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago Did you reply to the wrong person? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -5 points 4 months ago Did you reply to the wrong person? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maddie1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago My favorite is people who use “archival purposes” as an argument for having a dump of some shit like SMB + Duck Hunt cart for NES. That shit isn’t going anywhere man, you just want to play it for free and that’s ok. permalink fedilink source parent