That's the problem though: scientific discourse is actually killed by "both sides", the conspiracy nutjobs overwhelmed is so much that even common sense discussions around rare edge cases are easily disregarded as "delving into conspiracy".

To be clear: I'm not blaming you individually but the fuckers who poisoned all discussions to the point where most of us assume bad faith from anyone and anything using the internet. :(

For this example: This is not about conspiracy but about strain management. Until the flu vaccine is produced and distributed we know if the bet this year which strains will dominate actually came true.

For me it's not a question. I'll get them anyway - but some people react very strong to the vaccine z having dlu symptoms for up to five days (still not terrible compared to the real thing - but if science already tells us that there's little to no protection it's becoming a calculation).