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[+] -47 points 4 months ago (6 children)

paying artists nothing is worse than paying them a little

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  • [–] 23 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I download and then I buy the actual physical media releases from the bands I like. Lots of bands even release their own music for download.

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  • [+] -10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    what about the bands you don't like? I assume they subscribe to your free with no ads and no money plan?

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    wait why should my money go to bands i dont like

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  • [+] -9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Because you're still listening to their music ? Do you buy the merch of thousands of producers who make ambient music? Do I need to have the ambient track hit me in a way that all the others don't before they are worthy of being paid?

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Because you're still listening to their music ?

    Why would anyone download and listen to music they don’t like…?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6048DIIHRMegUg0IHm7T5m

    How do you propose I recompense all the artists on this playlist for example?

    That's 8,902 songs

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah that doesn't look anything like my playlists.

    I typically find new music through recommendations from friends, through other media (games, tv), youtube or radio.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I duno, how do you guys find new music to listen to?

    Sometimes I'll just put a playlist on with 1000 tracks in it, maybe a couple I like, most are ok, some of them i skip, in my world they all get paid, in your world only a tiny tiny fraction of them do

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    The same way anybody did before Spotify? Listen to something, if you like it then buy it, if you don't then don't.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    just how rich do you think i am? you think i can afford to go through 10’s of thousands of back catalogs trying to find the music im listening to to buy?

    god damn boomers

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    How much have you spent paying Spotify to own absolutely nothing?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    you can see my listening stats here https://www.last.fm/user/ikt123

    Spotify is the only subscription I have and I find it immense value supporting artists and discovering new music

    ty for asking :)

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't answer the question.

    You can justify paying an evil corp however you want, all of the people you are arguing with here are just telling you there are better ways to support artists and discover music

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    yes and they’re all wrong, from the linux losers who pirate and then rarely if ever buy music but virtue signal like they buy music on the daily to the bandcampers who have the music discovery capabilities of limewire and have to spend significantly more time finding music to listen to

    wrong about how much spotify pays out because they don’t know the calculations behind it

    they complain about low payouts while simultaneously using spotify free/ad supported which is bottom tier in payouts to artists, there’s even posts here linking to ways to ad block on spotify free so instead of artists getting a tiny bit they get nothing? and they’re preaching to me ???

    they’re wrong about timelines, record stores and software support

    what a pain i can think for myself 😮‍💨

    the only one i’ll give credit to is qobuz but fuck me are they vegan cunts about it, nyeh im using qobuz because i’m better than spotify users nyeh

    i am not most people, as you saw i listen to a shitload of music, some i like, some i don’t, some im ambivalent about, i support them all the same

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    There used to be plenty of music stores where you could listen to the music before you bought it. They all died because of Spotify. Good job supporting an industry that killed physical media, pushes AI "music" to the masses and enables Nazi podcasters. Nice fucking Job.

    Also, Go to Bandcamp. You can listen to all the music there. Then you can decide to buy the music and in return you get to download the FLAC files. Most artists even let you decide how much you want to pay. You come off as someone who's never taken a step out into the world and just gobbles everything up that is spoonfed to you.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.

    Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers. Its a dead model and the only thing we're guilty of is felony contempt of business model.

    Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Paying spotify to punish artists and pay industry bodies who in turn funnel money to rightoid hate groups is worse than starving artists.

    Let me know how suing people for downloading music on Limewire works out for you

    Also, most artists get fuck all from Spotify or any of the streamers

    There's more music released every minute that can be listened to in a lifetime, this is what happens when supply outstrips demand

    Fuck it, real fans steal the music and turn up to gigs.

    That's cool and all but not every artist does gigs and most people don't go to them, so there needs to be something for the other 99% of people, which conveniently, is called Spotify or Qobuz

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know if it's stealing but I feel better knowing when I listen to music artists get paid

    As someone else pointed out:

    Today, Spotify accounts for roughly 30% of recorded music revenue.

    That's a lot of artists making music we enjoy who are able to eat at night

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Theres also a lot of aritists having their media streamed by these companies who get absolutely zero because they're being robbed by Spotify and the industry at large

    Just because Taylor Swift gets her cut doesn't mean its just and fair.

    Infact, I'd say thats just concentrating wealth in the hands of power again.. So.. uhh.. I'mma keep "stealing" it and buying band merch instead.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    And before Spotify, artists were able to make more money with physical media, that the customers owned for life. Spotify essentially made the situation worse for both the artist and the consumer.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    Damn your memory really goes like this

    1. People going down to the record store to buy CD's

    2. Spotify :D

    You really missed out a whole decade of music piracy and CD sales falling through the floor

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