cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/41590
The entire Israeli political spectrum is united in blasting Netanyahu for not continuing to attack Iran, and Israeli society agrees. The reason, to put it simply, is that Israelis are war junkies.
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And that’s basically it!
I understand the hate in the comments, but I think the important part is something else, How can the world deal with a country that only wants to commit genocide with all its neighbors? and not the government, the population in general. What can we do with this? How do we get out of the cycle of violence with people like this?
It's pretty easy actually.
Israel's economy is dependent on US funding. If the US stopped sending them money, they couldn't commit genocide and also the economy would crash..leading to mass migration out of the country.
Echoing basically all other replies: Israel doesn't actually have the juice to get their lebensraum alone; they need all sorts of American and European support for it. Cutting off their support would immediately destroy their position as regional near-hegemon and force them to compromise.
Not supporting and helping their fascists government and leaders would be a good start and would solve most of the problems.
Countries should keep imposing economical sanctions on Israel till they start dismentling settlements and lift the blockade on Gaza in exchange Hamas has to disarm and organize elections. If hamas refuse countries should be arming the PA instead of israel and allow them to take down Hamas . If israel refuse countries should keep sanctionning israel and allow PA to get rid of settlers and defend itself against Israel
Denazification of Germany after WW2 is a good example.
Is it a practical example for dealing with a country that is (or at least makes it an open secret that it very probably is) nuclear armed though?
German "denazification" first required complete military defeat and occupation of the German state, that's not really practical to achieve when the country to be occupied has the option to devastate whatever country it's fighting as a deterrent/revenge once it concludes defeat is inevitable. As such, what is needed here I think is examples of how to defuse such a situation and push a population away from violence purely through limited conflict, economic pressure, sponsorship of internal dissent, etc
Its possible, just very expensive. A complete blockade for a decade or two would be a good start. They dont have the resources there to be self sufficient.
It would be a good start but as long as the US supports them they’ll remain sufficient enough that their ruling class can enjoy their standard of living. It’d be the same as turning the US into a pariah, only the poorest would suffer. Might get some of them to flip on their support for the regime since the consequences hit home, but both regimes are self-sufficient and no longer need the support of the people to maintain power. The wealth class in the US could survive a long blockade on the resources available there, natural and human, if cut off from it’s ability to outsource exploitation.
The real cost to dislodge these regimes is going to be money and blood, because they will not give up their power without a fight externally or internally. We got rid of Trump once and he unleashed his supporters on the Capitol, they’d vote/fight for the same thing the next time they got a chance. Same in Israel. It’s probably going to take a combination of external powers leveraging their global economic influence, apply military force, and coordinating with internal opposition to oust the central powers, then stick around and help what can be scavenged of the resistance to build new infrastructure and help prevent the Lost Causers from creeping back in to positions of influence and power.
Yes, the US needs to implode for Israel to ever see accountability. Israelis are stupid and hostile enough to implode it-- even when thats against their interests. I think it'll happen.
Even pakistan has more nukes then Israel. Israel can't win a nuclear war
Nobody wins in a nuclear war.
Israel is small and can be fully destroyed with multiple nukes. Big countries especially with nukes could still exists after getting nukes. So the idea that israel would use a nuke on nuclear countries who will sct to end occupation foesn't look realistic to me
Except Nazis were just sent somewhere else and called libs.
They must be put under ethical adult supervision. They clearly cannot be allowed to rule a state. They flatly do not beleive in human rights and are supremacists. Basically nazis.
Crater it