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[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (3 children) This is what Slate Auto is doing with their truck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why the Slate is the only EV I am even remotely interested in at this point. I hope it actually comes out and doesn't suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) It looks like it is. Slate has been doing lots of irl photo ops recently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) so has Aptera... stans have been true believing since 2009, and now a bill is going to make them illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though? I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (3 children) Unfortunately with the US EV incentives gone the Slate is way overpriced for what it is. 150 mile range and manual crank windows and no radio or speakers at all on the base model for $28K. I can understand wanting a low tech vehicle but I think they might have gone a step too far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* I want them to survive so bad. I don't need my vehicle to be a third place. I don't want a molded dash with an entertainment center that will be obsolete when it's new and unable to be modified because they abandoned the DIN standard so you could only buy factory replacements. I just want a thing that can do ~50+ miles a day and recharge that overnight. Which Slate could do with just a regular 120v outlet. Who knows if they'll actually make it to market or if it'll be $40k+ by the time it does, but even without the EV incentive $28k puts it among cheapest new cars in the US. I'm just severely unenthusiastic about any other newer cars on the market if my current one dies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree. I think the issue Slate is facing is inflation and tariffs. I believe their president mentioned something about it. Even Mtsubishi pulled their Mirage off production, which I really liked. I do wish it had a higher range for the base model. 150mi is fine commuting, but sucks for road trips. I love the barebones truck concept. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I really love the idea as well and really hope for Slate to succeed and make the v2 even better. All previous EV pickups were targeting the full-size truck crowd, but I think a compact EV truck makes wayyy more sense! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Right! I think it's a good entry level for first time buyers into the EV market permalink fedilink source parent [–] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago You're not wrong, but it's important to point out how overpriced ALL new cars are too. Within the existing pool of overpriced options, it is fairly "cheap". Personally I am willing to pay more specifically to avoid the surveillance nightmare that is every new vehicle, and I value simplicity over farkles, so I'm exactly Slate's target audience. I do worry whether there are enough luddites like me to help them succeed though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garretble@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago I just Bezos wasn't invested in the company. I'd hate to give that fucker any more money if I can help it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's why the Slate is the only EV I am even remotely interested in at this point. I hope it actually comes out and doesn't suck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) It looks like it is. Slate has been doing lots of irl photo ops recently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) so has Aptera... stans have been true believing since 2009, and now a bill is going to make them illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though? I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) It looks like it is. Slate has been doing lots of irl photo ops recently permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) so has Aptera... stans have been true believing since 2009, and now a bill is going to make them illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though? I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) so has Aptera... stans have been true believing since 2009, and now a bill is going to make them illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though? I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though? I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (3 children) Unfortunately with the US EV incentives gone the Slate is way overpriced for what it is. 150 mile range and manual crank windows and no radio or speakers at all on the base model for $28K. I can understand wanting a low tech vehicle but I think they might have gone a step too far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* I want them to survive so bad. I don't need my vehicle to be a third place. I don't want a molded dash with an entertainment center that will be obsolete when it's new and unable to be modified because they abandoned the DIN standard so you could only buy factory replacements. I just want a thing that can do ~50+ miles a day and recharge that overnight. Which Slate could do with just a regular 120v outlet. Who knows if they'll actually make it to market or if it'll be $40k+ by the time it does, but even without the EV incentive $28k puts it among cheapest new cars in the US. I'm just severely unenthusiastic about any other newer cars on the market if my current one dies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree. I think the issue Slate is facing is inflation and tariffs. I believe their president mentioned something about it. Even Mtsubishi pulled their Mirage off production, which I really liked. I do wish it had a higher range for the base model. 150mi is fine commuting, but sucks for road trips. I love the barebones truck concept. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I really love the idea as well and really hope for Slate to succeed and make the v2 even better. All previous EV pickups were targeting the full-size truck crowd, but I think a compact EV truck makes wayyy more sense! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Right! I think it's a good entry level for first time buyers into the EV market permalink fedilink source parent [–] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago You're not wrong, but it's important to point out how overpriced ALL new cars are too. Within the existing pool of overpriced options, it is fairly "cheap". Personally I am willing to pay more specifically to avoid the surveillance nightmare that is every new vehicle, and I value simplicity over farkles, so I'm exactly Slate's target audience. I do worry whether there are enough luddites like me to help them succeed though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* I want them to survive so bad. I don't need my vehicle to be a third place. I don't want a molded dash with an entertainment center that will be obsolete when it's new and unable to be modified because they abandoned the DIN standard so you could only buy factory replacements. I just want a thing that can do ~50+ miles a day and recharge that overnight. Which Slate could do with just a regular 120v outlet. Who knows if they'll actually make it to market or if it'll be $40k+ by the time it does, but even without the EV incentive $28k puts it among cheapest new cars in the US. I'm just severely unenthusiastic about any other newer cars on the market if my current one dies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree. I think the issue Slate is facing is inflation and tariffs. I believe their president mentioned something about it. Even Mtsubishi pulled their Mirage off production, which I really liked. I do wish it had a higher range for the base model. 150mi is fine commuting, but sucks for road trips. I love the barebones truck concept. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I really love the idea as well and really hope for Slate to succeed and make the v2 even better. All previous EV pickups were targeting the full-size truck crowd, but I think a compact EV truck makes wayyy more sense! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Right! I think it's a good entry level for first time buyers into the EV market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I really love the idea as well and really hope for Slate to succeed and make the v2 even better. All previous EV pickups were targeting the full-size truck crowd, but I think a compact EV truck makes wayyy more sense! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Right! I think it's a good entry level for first time buyers into the EV market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Right! I think it's a good entry level for first time buyers into the EV market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago You're not wrong, but it's important to point out how overpriced ALL new cars are too. Within the existing pool of overpriced options, it is fairly "cheap". Personally I am willing to pay more specifically to avoid the surveillance nightmare that is every new vehicle, and I value simplicity over farkles, so I'm exactly Slate's target audience. I do worry whether there are enough luddites like me to help them succeed though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] garretble@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago I just Bezos wasn't invested in the company. I'd hate to give that fucker any more money if I can help it. permalink fedilink source parent