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submitted 4 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

For fuck’s sake our president started a war when we weren’t looking.

But you'd be fine with it if he did it while you were looking, of course

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My point is that we're so inundated with terrible news and horrific policy we can't start to mount an opposition to a specific change before the next horror arises. We had military occupations in our cities which have been forgotten because that was half a dozen scandals ago.

    Personally I've been in panic mode for a year because I was a government contractor before Trump let Elon Musk lay me off. Due to the economy Trump is directly responsible for the only job I could find pays 1/4 of what I was making with no benefits.

    Now there is a war. I'm going hungry.

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  • [+] -9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    My point is that we’re so inundated with terrible news and horrific policy we can’t start to mount an opposition to a specific change before the next horror arises.

    You didn't do that under previous presidents either.

    Personally I’ve been in panic mode for a year because I was a government contractor before Trump let Elon Musk lay me off. Due to the economy Trump is directly responsible for the only job I could find pays 1/4 of what I was making with no benefits.

    Damn, truly nobody has been more mistreated by the US Empire than you. I'm sure the people Gaza would be horrified if they only knew.

    Now there is a war.

    And apparently it would be ok if it wasn't started behind your back?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    He's not asking for your pity, or mine. He's explaining why he and many other Americans are feeling helpless and are finding it difficult to mount a resistance, eventhough they know they should.

    Interstingly sanctions had this same effect on the Iranian middle class. No way to revolt and replace thengovernment when your rent is double your income.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    finding it difficult to mount a resistance, eventhough they know they should.

    A major part of it is because those who do mount any kind of actual resistance that has any potential for being effective, they get murdered and disappeared. E.g. Black Panthers, or the original leadership of BLM before it was coopted by liberals. Any genuine leftism in the US has been effectively eradicated by outright murder, intense anticommunist propaganda campaigns (targeting every segment of society from elementary schools to popular media control to even workers unions themselves), and direct infiltration and dismantling of leftist organizations of any size. This society is practically built around a pathological individualism that neuters any potential for mass action. Our culture has been cultivated to only accept rightward expressions of political dissatisfaction, with no room for or even basic understanding of leftwing organization.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ahh yes. Quantification of suffering to dismiss it as invalid. The ol' .ml classic.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That comment was not about "quantification of suffering," it was pointing out that untold suffering was already being caused by the US and its war criminal presidents before the most recent one was in office. Yet so many only seemed to notice when it started effecting them personally. Which isn't surprising, but when Americans who previously just went about their privileged lives up until Trump came along talk as if this juggernaut of misery, cruelty, and death is only a recent thing, that's very demeaning to the millions who have bore the brunt of that cruelty for decades. It is also frankly chauvanistic. It is very inappropriate to write that off as "quantification of suffering" but it sounds like you just have a beef with the .ml instance.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Fair, not the instance in general, but certain bad actors among you. I still see it as dismissial of suffering through comparison. Not a valid play in my book.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Not a valid play in my book.

    This isn't debate club, nobody cares what's in your book

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Then what are the comments for, o great sage rock?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Discourse for most people, reddit methadone for you

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Uh huh. I don't know if you're trying to be funny or trying to make me upset, but you do have me laughing. What is discourse without a blend of agreement and disagreement? I'm on Lemmy because I don't want a pidgeonhole/circlejerk of everyone agreeing with everyone.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Go back to Reddit

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