▲ 731 ▼ Artemis II Astronauts Have ‘Two Microsoft Outlooks’ and Neither Work (www.404media.co) submitted 4 months ago by shish_mish@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] mech@feddit.org 27 points 4 months ago (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (3 children) On the stream you could very easily see his PIN code being put in, hopefully it's limited to that device! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 26 points 4 months ago (1 child) Shit, I left my 2FA device at home! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago "please provide fingerprint to verify" Looks at glove "Fuck" permalink fedilink source parent [–] mech@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago I think that's the point of PINs. Otherwise they'd just be very, very shitty MS account passwords. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Probably not, I'd imagine all the tablets have the same pin to make things easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Now all we need is physical access to one of those tablets and we're in! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a19061/britains-doomsday-subs-run-windows-xp/ (Though, of course, that's alledgedly simplifying a lot to make it more click-bait-y: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-trident-doesnt-run-windows-xp/ ) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children) Of course a submarine's systems won't be connected to the internet, but using a Windows base with a "Custom Support Agreement" still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. IMO something so critical to defense should be built by British developers, and based on OpenBSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. You, umm, probably shouldn't look up who maintains the trident missiles those subs carry... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Are they maintained by a private corporation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* I agree, but then I'm one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-) EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Further to this, there isn't a 'launch the nuclear weapons' application which controls things. Windows is used for the day to day admin - producing the paperwork required in any organisation - but the actual control systems, for the submarine, the weapons the reactor etc are not running off windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. No, it doesn't. How is Microsoft going to affect the software installed on a nuclear submarine? It only gives Microsoft the power to choose to not add new features, the software wouldn't be on the sub if it required any kind of outside support... the entire point of a nuclear submarine is to perform a second strike after everyone (including Microsoft) is destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. Having software that's dependent on anything that isn't on the boat would completely defeat that purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (3 children) On the stream you could very easily see his PIN code being put in, hopefully it's limited to that device! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 26 points 4 months ago (1 child) Shit, I left my 2FA device at home! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago "please provide fingerprint to verify" Looks at glove "Fuck" permalink fedilink source parent [–] mech@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago I think that's the point of PINs. Otherwise they'd just be very, very shitty MS account passwords. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Probably not, I'd imagine all the tablets have the same pin to make things easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Now all we need is physical access to one of those tablets and we're in! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 26 points 4 months ago (1 child) Shit, I left my 2FA device at home! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago "please provide fingerprint to verify" Looks at glove "Fuck" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago "please provide fingerprint to verify" Looks at glove "Fuck" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago I think that's the point of PINs. Otherwise they'd just be very, very shitty MS account passwords. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Probably not, I'd imagine all the tablets have the same pin to make things easier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Now all we need is physical access to one of those tablets and we're in! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Now all we need is physical access to one of those tablets and we're in! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a19061/britains-doomsday-subs-run-windows-xp/ (Though, of course, that's alledgedly simplifying a lot to make it more click-bait-y: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-trident-doesnt-run-windows-xp/ ) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children) Of course a submarine's systems won't be connected to the internet, but using a Windows base with a "Custom Support Agreement" still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. IMO something so critical to defense should be built by British developers, and based on OpenBSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. You, umm, probably shouldn't look up who maintains the trident missiles those subs carry... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Are they maintained by a private corporation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* I agree, but then I'm one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-) EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Further to this, there isn't a 'launch the nuclear weapons' application which controls things. Windows is used for the day to day admin - producing the paperwork required in any organisation - but the actual control systems, for the submarine, the weapons the reactor etc are not running off windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. No, it doesn't. How is Microsoft going to affect the software installed on a nuclear submarine? It only gives Microsoft the power to choose to not add new features, the software wouldn't be on the sub if it required any kind of outside support... the entire point of a nuclear submarine is to perform a second strike after everyone (including Microsoft) is destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. Having software that's dependent on anything that isn't on the boat would completely defeat that purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children) Of course a submarine's systems won't be connected to the internet, but using a Windows base with a "Custom Support Agreement" still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. IMO something so critical to defense should be built by British developers, and based on OpenBSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. You, umm, probably shouldn't look up who maintains the trident missiles those subs carry... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Are they maintained by a private corporation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* I agree, but then I'm one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-) EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so... permalink fedilink source parent [–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Further to this, there isn't a 'launch the nuclear weapons' application which controls things. Windows is used for the day to day admin - producing the paperwork required in any organisation - but the actual control systems, for the submarine, the weapons the reactor etc are not running off windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. No, it doesn't. How is Microsoft going to affect the software installed on a nuclear submarine? It only gives Microsoft the power to choose to not add new features, the software wouldn't be on the sub if it required any kind of outside support... the entire point of a nuclear submarine is to perform a second strike after everyone (including Microsoft) is destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. Having software that's dependent on anything that isn't on the boat would completely defeat that purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. You, umm, probably shouldn't look up who maintains the trident missiles those subs carry... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Are they maintained by a private corporation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Are they maintained by a private corporation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago I bet it’s Adobe. Turns out making or maintaining nukes isn’t really that hard or expensive. It’s just the subscription to Adobe Apocalypse that’s the real blocker for most economies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* I agree, but then I'm one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-) EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Further to this, there isn't a 'launch the nuclear weapons' application which controls things. Windows is used for the day to day admin - producing the paperwork required in any organisation - but the actual control systems, for the submarine, the weapons the reactor etc are not running off windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago using a Windows base with a “Custom Support Agreement” still gives a private US corporation the power to cripple their subs. No, it doesn't. How is Microsoft going to affect the software installed on a nuclear submarine? It only gives Microsoft the power to choose to not add new features, the software wouldn't be on the sub if it required any kind of outside support... the entire point of a nuclear submarine is to perform a second strike after everyone (including Microsoft) is destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. Having software that's dependent on anything that isn't on the boat would completely defeat that purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
