▲ 477 ▼ Squirrels are ‘vaping’ e-cigarettes after mistaking fruity aromas for food (nypost.com) submitted 5 months ago by mudkip@lemdro.id to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 131 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 child) it can be a better method for some people than the other extant methods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) The grand majority of people vaping aren't quitting smoking and probably never smoked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 5 months ago That's not the topic of discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (2 children) yeah, that's their choice. weird how that works, isn't it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -6 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no "choice" when you are drug addicted to nicotine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use. weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) The NHS actually prescribes them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago please point to the area in my comment where i did that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) The grand majority of people vaping aren't quitting smoking and probably never smoked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 5 months ago That's not the topic of discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (2 children) yeah, that's their choice. weird how that works, isn't it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -6 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no "choice" when you are drug addicted to nicotine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use. weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) The NHS actually prescribes them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago please point to the area in my comment where i did that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 5 months ago That's not the topic of discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (2 children) yeah, that's their choice. weird how that works, isn't it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -6 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no "choice" when you are drug addicted to nicotine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use. weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent [+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) The NHS actually prescribes them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago please point to the area in my comment where i did that permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -6 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no "choice" when you are drug addicted to nicotine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use. weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child) you always can choose to start or not. beyond that, addiction may or may not set in. but people can always choose to start and they can always choose their method of use. weird how when it comes to tobacco people always think there are no decisions. have you never thought about it, like with your brain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Tobacco and vapes are nicotine delivery devices design to entrap addicts for life. This is why most vape companies are tobacco companies and why scumbags are selling nicotine pouches. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago Nicotine on its own is about as addictive as caffeine. It's the delivery system that the mental addiction is tethered to, not the substance. Regardless, multiple studies have shown that vaping is a successful method to quit smoking, and that vaping is significantly less harmful than smoking. Shit, even the heavy metal study that was misreported to sound scary had Vapes with concentrations that were either orders of magnitude lower than smoking, lower than the OSHA limits, and in some cases lower than atmospheric levels. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah but stop pretending like vapes are some magic device to help with addiction. If they were actually meant to help with addiction they would be prescribed and come with additional medical help. Time after time we have seen this exact situation play out, something comes around to decrease addiction and does nothing more than induce it this is no different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) The NHS actually prescribes them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago please point to the area in my comment where i did that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) The NHS actually prescribes them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sure and that probrally comes with more than just vapes but also medical help and professional support, I doubt they just give you a prescription and say "here smoke this shit until you pass out" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right, but you said they didn't help with addiction because no one prescribed them for it. I've been personally responsible for getting about 20 people off of cigarettes by introducing them to vaping with an open system. And many of them went on to quit vaping with relative ease. Vaping was created for the purpose of making it easy stopping smoking and to reduce harm. This was way before disposable vapes were a thing, back when people were modifying flashlights to heat coils. It's a highly effective method to stop smoking because it not only does it contain the mildly addictive nicotine, it also replaces the action of smoking which is the truly addictive part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) The absolute grand majority of people purchasing vapes are doing so in a unregulated and unprescribed manner, if it required a prescription by law maybe then I would believe its actually a tool to combat addiction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 5 months ago You're moving the goalposts. Whether or not non-smokers choose to use it has no bearing on its efficacy as a smoking cessation method. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago please point to the area in my comment where i did that permalink fedilink source parent