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[+] heiligerbimbam@lemmy.wtf -12 points 5 months ago (21 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (5 children) I think the US has been significantly worse than Russia over the last century if not more. They've been in various capacities in Vietnam, Korea, Phillipines, Panama, Cuba, and those are just the ones off the top of my head. Read about their colonial, commercial and other wars as well as their regime change ops that has brought countless right-wing dictators around the world, that have killed shit ton of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago "been in various capacities" is doing a lot of work in this comment permalink fedilink source parent [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -6 points 5 months ago (3 children) The U.S. is the global hegemonic imperialist power, but that doesn't mean that Russia can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago Yeah that's what people are saying, they're saying Russia can do not wrong. You guys always have to make these weird strawman because when you make an actual comparison of what each country has done and why, your "both sides" argument crumbles like a cheap cookie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago Russia does plenty of wrong things. Their anti-imperialist and anti-fascist intervention in Ukraine is not one of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago No question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago (10 children) Weird moment to do a both-sides. Guess the US imperialist propaganda doesn't allow you to think anything could be worse than Russia. Especially not the US empire itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children) Russia is acting in an anti-imperialist and defensive capacity. Literally the polar opposite of US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -13 points 5 months ago (6 children) Nah nah nah. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is inherently imperialist and fucked. Also fuck NATO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent [–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 point 5 months ago Youve got it backwards. Very recently russias been trying to catch up on atrocities, get back in shape, fit into that old ockrana uniform. But other than tgat america outdid them by orders of magnitude, and this calendqr year started defending its orphan bone crown pretty hard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago there is no comparison between russia and the us. the us doesnt compare to any other country. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago Russia isn't any worse than the US permalink fedilink source parent [–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) Its the same as comparing a dog to a t-rex permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago Made me chuckle irl, thanks for the comparison permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (5 children) I think the US has been significantly worse than Russia over the last century if not more. They've been in various capacities in Vietnam, Korea, Phillipines, Panama, Cuba, and those are just the ones off the top of my head. Read about their colonial, commercial and other wars as well as their regime change ops that has brought countless right-wing dictators around the world, that have killed shit ton of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago "been in various capacities" is doing a lot of work in this comment permalink fedilink source parent [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -6 points 5 months ago (3 children) The U.S. is the global hegemonic imperialist power, but that doesn't mean that Russia can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago Yeah that's what people are saying, they're saying Russia can do not wrong. You guys always have to make these weird strawman because when you make an actual comparison of what each country has done and why, your "both sides" argument crumbles like a cheap cookie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago Russia does plenty of wrong things. Their anti-imperialist and anti-fascist intervention in Ukraine is not one of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago No question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago "been in various capacities" is doing a lot of work in this comment permalink fedilink source parent
[+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -6 points 5 months ago (3 children) The U.S. is the global hegemonic imperialist power, but that doesn't mean that Russia can do no wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago Yeah that's what people are saying, they're saying Russia can do not wrong. You guys always have to make these weird strawman because when you make an actual comparison of what each country has done and why, your "both sides" argument crumbles like a cheap cookie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago Russia does plenty of wrong things. Their anti-imperialist and anti-fascist intervention in Ukraine is not one of those things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago No question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago Yeah that's what people are saying, they're saying Russia can do not wrong. You guys always have to make these weird strawman because when you make an actual comparison of what each country has done and why, your "both sides" argument crumbles like a cheap cookie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago Russia does plenty of wrong things. Their anti-imperialist and anti-fascist intervention in Ukraine is not one of those things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago (10 children) Weird moment to do a both-sides. Guess the US imperialist propaganda doesn't allow you to think anything could be worse than Russia. Especially not the US empire itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children) Russia is acting in an anti-imperialist and defensive capacity. Literally the polar opposite of US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -13 points 5 months ago (6 children) Nah nah nah. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is inherently imperialist and fucked. Also fuck NATO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent [–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 point 5 months ago Youve got it backwards. Very recently russias been trying to catch up on atrocities, get back in shape, fit into that old ockrana uniform. But other than tgat america outdid them by orders of magnitude, and this calendqr year started defending its orphan bone crown pretty hard. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children) Russia is acting in an anti-imperialist and defensive capacity. Literally the polar opposite of US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -13 points 5 months ago (6 children) Nah nah nah. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is inherently imperialist and fucked. Also fuck NATO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent [–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 point 5 months ago Youve got it backwards. Very recently russias been trying to catch up on atrocities, get back in shape, fit into that old ockrana uniform. But other than tgat america outdid them by orders of magnitude, and this calendqr year started defending its orphan bone crown pretty hard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children) Russia is acting in an anti-imperialist and defensive capacity. Literally the polar opposite of US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -13 points 5 months ago (6 children) Nah nah nah. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is inherently imperialist and fucked. Also fuck NATO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent
[+] anxioustea@lemmy.ml -13 points 5 months ago (6 children) Nah nah nah. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, Russia's invasion of Ukraine is inherently imperialist and fucked. Also fuck NATO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 child) You have no idea what imperialism is. "Country a attacks country b" isn't imperialism in and of itself, even if you grant the flawed notion that it was an unprovoked attack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago yeah. I think calling it imperialist is wrong on my part. I do think invading another country is fucked though, regardless of the supposed justifications. reading more about this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) I hope you will take some time to educate yourself about the conflict and its causes: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago appreciate you sharing this. I will definitely look through this. I think calling russia's action "imperialist" was definitely a flawed analysis on my part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wrong and wrong, read a book and stop caping for nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anxioustea@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* "stop caping for Nazis" is quite an assumptive statement to make about my views. doing my due-diligence to try and learn more from the perspective of many of this community. appreciate your helpful post permalink fedilink source parent
[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 point 5 months ago Youve got it backwards. Very recently russias been trying to catch up on atrocities, get back in shape, fit into that old ockrana uniform. But other than tgat america outdid them by orders of magnitude, and this calendqr year started defending its orphan bone crown pretty hard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago there is no comparison between russia and the us. the us doesnt compare to any other country. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago Russia isn't any worse than the US permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) Its the same as comparing a dog to a t-rex permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago Made me chuckle irl, thanks for the comparison permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago Made me chuckle irl, thanks for the comparison permalink fedilink source parent