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GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating systems — group says it will never require personal information (www.tomshardware.com)
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[–] 126 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn't really matter.

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  • [–] 51 points 5 months ago*

    During prohibition era, there was a brick of dried grapes being sold as a nutrition supplement or something like that, but it had a "warning" sticker attached saying specifically not to dissolve it in a specific quantity of water, and if that were to happen, do not let a specific quantity of yeast to fall in it, and especially not to let it sit for 6 weeks, or else you might end up with wine, which is forbidden!

    I can see a cheeky sort of company selling a phone with a little warning label attached to it.....

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  • [+] -51 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    That’s probably not a viable economic decision though

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  • [–] 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    If you can't open chrome on a pc, connect an android phone to it, and use a simple web tool you're probably not capable of any actual level of digital privacy.

    This isn't me being elitist its just the fact that the resources needed to make this shit viable and easy are being tied up to corporations in order to make more easy-to-use corporate spyware.

    Privacy under fascism takes time, effort, and education. Stop fucking expecting it to be OOTB. Society is literally engineered against that. Its not a reasonable ask of open source devs making privacy tools.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    What else can those who value privacy and have computer skills do but try to be a good example and offer to help to those around them without the know-how?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, especially not when you barely have time in the day to take a drink yourself.

    If someone doesn't have time or will to put privacy over convenience that's kind of their gig. It sucks but like I can't fuckin' change their life schedule/priorities.

    I spend enough time documenting and working in my homelab, I don't need other people's too. I'll be happy to point people towards information and documentation, but that's about it.

    However if you're not willing to:

    1. bury your nose in multiple wikis
    2. change out the OS on nearly every general purpose computing device you own
    3. Live most of your online life anonymously/pseudononymously
    4. Run a homelab (technically not required but makes life nicer)

    You should stop while you're ahead.

    If you have kids I have no fucking clue how you'd even begin.

    At that point you're installing rootkit anticheat just to get little johnny playing games with their friends, fucking nightmare scenario.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Big tech has their claws deep into education and I don't see that changing. Parts of the world see school shootings happen, a more obvious problem than lack of software freedom/privacy, but do not think that's bad enough to change. Having children right now may be a bad idea.

    I've already distanced myself by deleted most (big-tech) social media platforms. Currently trying to ditch Discord but I don't see friends do the same. Stopping now may look like a good idea but the ick would remain.

    When things really matter all we have is words or violence. I have no choice but to hope that good ideas win in the end, and that the world improves over time. Just be the best you can.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That’s probably not a viable economic decision though

    Should still be a good deal for Motorola. There's a bunch of folks now who buy whatever phone runs GrapheneOS best. Whichever company courts us gets our business.

    I'm sure we're not a landslide, but sometimes niche communities can still make a huge difference for a company.

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