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2025 films political compass (thelemmy.club)
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[–] -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

Do we really have to pretend a theocracy is good and everyone living there loves it just because they're bombing israel?

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why would i care about your opinion on film when your thoughts on real human lives has the nuance of a ham sandwich?

edit: i realize this might not be clear from my comment because you can't read, but no one thinks that the theocracy of Iran is a good and just system of governance. we all understand that Iranians can't effectively organize any sort of worker's revolution while being bombed by amerikkka and the zionist entity.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    Im not saying or expecting iranians to overthrow their government at the current moment. Im saying that it's perfectly understandable why a director who's spent the last couple of decades in and out of the iranian prison system for making films the state disapproves of would make a film about the negative after effects of the iranian prison system on a person, and it doesn't make him right wing or pro-israel or a monarchist or something for disliking his government over it. To quote the man himself: "An attack on my homeland, Iran, is in no way acceptable. Israel has violated Iran and should be tried in an international court as a war aggressor."

    The person I was responding to treated it as suspicious that he disliked his country being a theocracy.

    Edit: also this is just generally an excessively combative way to respond to me saying i disagree with your OBAA opinion

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    someone signaled that they weren't sure how to respond to the quote "defies iran's theocracy in a variety of ways" and your response to that was a strawman characterizing that as "pretend[ing] a theocracy is good and everyone living there loves it just because they're bombing israel?" we're not in Iran. don't hide behind an Iranian filmmaker's nuanced opinions on his home country for your own unnuanced hyperbole. you deserve to be combated.

    you want to disagree about my obaa opinion and have me care about that instead of disregarding your nonsense? write an actual defense of the film's treatment of black characters. defend PTA's faux-revolutionary nonsense. disagreeing with the concept of a downvote is so reviled here that we pulled it out of the software; give substantive critique a shot.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago*

    im sorry to the original user if i misinterpreted their comment of "fry" but to me that seems to be them being suspicious of a guy living in iran for disliking his own government. I don't agree with Panahi's political opinions, he wants a liberal democratic government more than any workers state and I think he's overly critical of his government in this current moment but like its the country he was born in (and would be living in right now if not for the fact that he's been told if he ever returns he'll be thrown back in prison yet again), all I'm arguing is that he's not some right winger or monarchist or zionist who just wants his personal favourite autocracy to replace it, he's just some guy and it shouldn't be treated as distrustful for an iranian to ideologically oppose the theocracy, especially when other users in the comment thread have already laid out his political position and that he isn't using as a smokescreen to advance pro-israel politics or whatever. I don't get why my comment was especially different from the other two users saying basically the same thing except that i was a bit snarkier than needed and also disagreed with you on an unrelated matter.

    i dont care enough about your personal opinion of OBAA to write out a long message defending it in response to you saying that people who liked it are "weird about black people", i care about your personal opinion just about enough to reply with "downbear" to your comment, I definitely don't care about it enough to go looking for unrelated statements you've made to argue against them as well.

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