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The Radical Plan to Save the Planet by Working Less: The degrowth movement wants to shrink the economy to address climate change, and create lives with less stuff, less work, and better well-being. (www.vice.com)
submitted 3 years ago by [M] to c/simpleliving@lemmy.ml
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[–] 32 points 3 years ago (19 children)

Protip: if you want your movement to gain any political traction, don't call it the degrowth movement

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    What would you call it? Its kinda like the "defund police" thing. If they called it "reallocate police resources" opposition to the movement would just use the stronger "defund police" language as a cudgel to smear it. It's best to own it and educate

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Pro tip: any one telling you the problem with your movement is the optics, doesn't actually care about the objectives of thst movement

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I care very much for this objective, I just think you'll never convince the dumber people with a name they'd immediately perceive as very negative

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    This has extremely strong "defund the police is not a good slogan" energy. obama-socialism

    Also i don't view people who share my position yet are not yet aware or educated yet on why they should stand in solidarity with the rest of their class as "the dumber people."

    That kind of language and outlook isn't something i view favorably. Its ar best borderline ableist, and conveys a sense that you veiw yourself as superior to those you should be in solidarity with.

    If you do care about these issues then i suggest a little self crit on this

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm sorry I'm hurting feelings all over the fediverse. I just care so much that I'm not afraid to say out loud that it's a dumb slogan and those that picked it are dumb because of it

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    It's not my feelings you're hurting. You're hurting yourself if you're viewing other people as inferior.

    My point about the slogan thing is more about the disingenuous statements from liberal pundits and specifically Obama's comments on "defund the police", as opposed to a criticism of you, so sorry if my critique came off as too harsh toward you on that.

    If you think its a bad slogan that's fair, but that line has been used by disingenuous people to try and derail things and thats what got me aggro.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    why? it's exactly what it is.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Because the average person is too dumb

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