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[–] 105 points 5 months ago (29 children)

He's talking awfully big for a guy getting his ass kicked by a country with a depleted military.

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  • [–] 57 points 5 months ago (22 children)

    a guy getting his ass kicked

    The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.

    It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.

    What they've accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn't come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago* (21 children)

    Military force kills people and breaks things. The US military is incredibly good at this. Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes is the job of politicians, and the Executive Branch happens to be incredibly bad at this.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes

    Is this even possible?

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    The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And only because if was so devastating, on a scale of cruelty never seen before.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    So the war itself, absent the bombings had no power of destruction, killed no one?

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    As a German: Hell yes! The Nazis needed putting down and that entire worldview got a thrashing that lastet us a good 70 years before Germany is on the verge of falling to the fash again.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    So the bombing of tanks, factories, trains, and bridges did nothing?

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'd argue that it did less than what Russia did in WWII: invade with overwhelming superiority in men

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago*

    The Russian march across Eastern Europe involved much more than raw manpower. Soviet Tanks were a force to be reconned with. Their use of artillery was inspired. Georgy Zhukov was a genius field marshal and outmaneuvered the fascist armies both retreating and advancing. He did not just win on numbers.

    That said, you'll find quite a few Cold Warriors who took the view - after the dust had settled - that Europe would have been far better united under a German military dictatorship than bifricated between NATO and the Soviet Union.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    That's irrelevant to this point. I asked you a yes / no question. You're free to concede the point if you don't want to answer.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You asked me an irrelevant question, because the original point, to which you replied, was not if bombing stuff did anything.

    Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes

    Is this even possible?

    So you seem to believe that during WWII the bombing led to a positive outcome, a claim you make and that I challenged. Now of course you're free to provide evidence supporting your claim, but I do not believe that the bombing led to a positive outcome.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    You asked me an irrelevant question, because the original point, to which you replied, was not if bombing stuff did anything.

    I think you've misread something. The statement I replied to was this one:

    The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    In that statement, you made the claim that no other bombing than those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did anything. I'm challenging that claim, which means I'm saying "I'm not convinced that your claim is true". Don't confuse that with me saying "I'm convinced that your claim is false".

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Talking awfully big for a man threatening a country with arguably one of the best infiltrations of the US intelligence network since the USSR. I'm unsure how true it is since the Cold War, but time was when you couldn't go take a shit in the Pentagon without Castro knowing about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Only a couple a years ago the US ambassador to Bolivia was arrested for being a Cuban spy. I’m sure they’re still punching above their intelligence agency still punches above their weight. I’d be curious to know how they can actually leverage that strength if Trump really decides to go after Cuba.

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  • [+] -21 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yep, and literally begging our allies to save him.

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