▲ 612 ▼ "Chickens figure out enshittification" (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/44261915
[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 months ago (4 children) chickens don't give out free eggs, we take them from them by force and we don't really ask. it as if slave-catcher catching people to sell them to slavery commented on the topic with "hey, free people!" permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you let chickens be in charge of their own eggs they will stop laying and try to raise their children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well don't you need the roster to make them in to baby chickens? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Not necessarily, no. Chickens are capable of parthenogenesis, or reproduction without a male, tho it’s fairly rare. It would probably happen a lot more if we tried incubating all the unfertilized eggs we have them produce every day, but they take longer to mature and are smaller on average than chickens born from sexual reproduction, so it’s not really worth pushing for from a husbandry standpoint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) Chickens lay eggs anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago Chicken are bred to lay more and more eggs, to the point of exhaustion. This was never a free choice, of course. Neither was it natural. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago people exists anyway permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago Chicken says no eggs for you permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Oh, I thought we give them food and security from wildlife in return permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) are you being sarcastic, or do you mean it? because if you mean it, oh boy, do i have bad news for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago More like a bad joke, but there is some truth to it depending on conditions (Ie. Free range chickens), other than that we're the predators, so obviously it's very ironic to say we're protecting them permalink fedilink source parent
[+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you let chickens be in charge of their own eggs they will stop laying and try to raise their children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well don't you need the roster to make them in to baby chickens? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Not necessarily, no. Chickens are capable of parthenogenesis, or reproduction without a male, tho it’s fairly rare. It would probably happen a lot more if we tried incubating all the unfertilized eggs we have them produce every day, but they take longer to mature and are smaller on average than chickens born from sexual reproduction, so it’s not really worth pushing for from a husbandry standpoint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you let chickens be in charge of their own eggs they will stop laying and try to raise their children. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well don't you need the roster to make them in to baby chickens? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Not necessarily, no. Chickens are capable of parthenogenesis, or reproduction without a male, tho it’s fairly rare. It would probably happen a lot more if we tried incubating all the unfertilized eggs we have them produce every day, but they take longer to mature and are smaller on average than chickens born from sexual reproduction, so it’s not really worth pushing for from a husbandry standpoint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well don't you need the roster to make them in to baby chickens? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Not necessarily, no. Chickens are capable of parthenogenesis, or reproduction without a male, tho it’s fairly rare. It would probably happen a lot more if we tried incubating all the unfertilized eggs we have them produce every day, but they take longer to mature and are smaller on average than chickens born from sexual reproduction, so it’s not really worth pushing for from a husbandry standpoint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Not necessarily, no. Chickens are capable of parthenogenesis, or reproduction without a male, tho it’s fairly rare. It would probably happen a lot more if we tried incubating all the unfertilized eggs we have them produce every day, but they take longer to mature and are smaller on average than chickens born from sexual reproduction, so it’s not really worth pushing for from a husbandry standpoint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Well but naturally, if you got a hen just laying eggs, what will happen if nobody picked the eggs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent [–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago They eat them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Parthenogenesis is natural, an adaptation for adverse conditions, typically caused by a specific gene (or genes perhaps, the research is pretty young yet). If it happens and they tend their nest like they want to, it’ll hatch and be female. Most chickens won’t produce self-fertile eggs at all, and those that can don’t always produce fertile eggs either by my understanding, so most of them will just be wasted. But if you get a specific breed that’s known for it the chances are much higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah that's my point. Only in rare occurrences will they be actual chickens, most of the time, they're going to waste permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago I certainly didn’t mean to imply anything else, it’s a rare gene after all, just that there are an absolute ton of eggs produced daily and I bet if you were to incubate all of them you’d have a lot more fertile than you’d think. Not a lot of people out there incubating eggs (or letting their chickens do it) from cock-free flocks to see what happens, you know? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) Chickens lay eggs anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago Chicken are bred to lay more and more eggs, to the point of exhaustion. This was never a free choice, of course. Neither was it natural. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago people exists anyway permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago Chicken are bred to lay more and more eggs, to the point of exhaustion. This was never a free choice, of course. Neither was it natural. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago Chicken says no eggs for you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Oh, I thought we give them food and security from wildlife in return permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) are you being sarcastic, or do you mean it? because if you mean it, oh boy, do i have bad news for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago More like a bad joke, but there is some truth to it depending on conditions (Ie. Free range chickens), other than that we're the predators, so obviously it's very ironic to say we're protecting them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) are you being sarcastic, or do you mean it? because if you mean it, oh boy, do i have bad news for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago More like a bad joke, but there is some truth to it depending on conditions (Ie. Free range chickens), other than that we're the predators, so obviously it's very ironic to say we're protecting them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 point 5 months ago More like a bad joke, but there is some truth to it depending on conditions (Ie. Free range chickens), other than that we're the predators, so obviously it's very ironic to say we're protecting them permalink fedilink source parent
