God, I hate posting a Reddit comment, but this is huge. Every claim is sourced (I have not verified personally).

Edit: Well, Reddit does what reddit does, it's been removed. Here is a github link: https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/985257

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[–] 156 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

tl;dr it was Meta (because of course it was). It is a little strange though, I would think they would absolutely want this sort of PII but they're pushing for Google and Apple to deal with it.

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  • [–] 84 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm guessing one of the motives is to be able to get more data from non meta users. If the API exists at the operating system level, they can then use the code behind that stupid little Facebook button that every website has to get user age as well as the normal browser fingerprinting data.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    My understanding is the API only applies to app stores.

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  • [–] 37 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Nope. Most of these legislations are pushing for OS level.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, and the OS communicates this to the app stores.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That is incorrect, the OS communicates the data to any "app" running on the system that asks for it. The text of the bill (the CA bill specifically is the one I have read) states that any developer of any app must ask for the age bracket from either the OS or the App Store, so the OS will have to have the API open to any "app" running on the device, not just the "app store". Also, they define "app store" as any website or software that people can download and install software from, which is VERY broad.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Or take the blame. Either way, I was expecting Palantir.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Zuck is on board with destroying democracy as much as Theil, otherwise Zuck wouldn't have personally hired Joel Kaplan back in 2009.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Well of course he is. Billionaires believe they are special little kings who deserve far more than democracy can ever offer them. One vote? Are you kidding? Just one vote each? Not for them. They deserve more. And so, they’re intent on destroying it for millions.

    Petty, ambitious tyrants, down to the stunted emotional growth of past rulers. Grow up with everyone telling you you’re a king vs growing into incredible money before you’ve finished developing into a full adult.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Billionaires need to be dealt with. Snuffed out root and stem.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They don't want to deal with the costs, just get the data. At least that's what I got from the text, as a reason why they were pushing to make social networks extempt and keep it on app/OS level.

    Fuckers.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    But they're not getting the data. The data is going to Google, MS and Apple. All they're getting is an age bracket.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    For now... But they are pushing laws that require the infrastructure for data harvesting be built into the OS level and then broadcast the data to any program that asks for it without question...

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Inside scoop having talked to the company meta uses. Since they use face identification to check age, my belief is that it burdens them with biometric data that the federal government wants rights to. That puts them in a precarious situation if they don't want to share said data, or can't make enough off it for the risk, just like problem Discord had. Much safer to have ad-focused data.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I recall reading an article a few days ago saying it was Meta behind it. I feel like tons of research wasn't needed when the answer key was already known.

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Independently verifying it is still worthwhile.

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