▲ 137 ▼ Why Flatpak Won and Snap and AppImage Didn't. - Cameron Knauff (youtube.com) submitted 6 months ago by ruffsl@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev 123 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 36 points 6 months ago (14 children) Just not snaps. AppImage and flatpak are fine though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 6 months ago (12 children) Whats wrong with snaps? My only "issue" with appimages is i tend to leave them in my downloads folder and lose them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 20 points 6 months ago* The snap store is a shit show of security issues. Forced migration to snaps. Performance issues. Proprietary back end. Slow to install Slow to start Eat up RAM Eat up disk space They screw up access to devices. They automatically update themselves without user confirmation. Fuck snaps. Fuck Canonical. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alfredon996@feddit.it 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) My issues with snaps are: The server software is closed source and centralized They create many block devices that can slow down booting the PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago I didn't realize, damn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (4 children) There's an appimaged daemon you can install that will manage them, and it watches a bunch of folders to integrate appimages with xdg and whatever window manager you've got. ~/Applications looks like an easy pick, or ~/.local/bin. Appimages you decide to keep you can just move there! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) Why do you keep appimages? I don't do that and now I'm wondering if I do something wrong. But I try to install from repos as much as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quibblekrust 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The appImage is the program. If you don't keep it, you don't have the program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago* I've used one or two tools that only distribute for my system as an appimage or as source code. I can't always be bothered to set up a compilation environment or deal with removing dependencies. I only use one or two regularly, but it's nice to have them integrated! I prefer from the distro's repos, then source, then flatpack, then appimage. Sometimes you have to take what you can get! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) snaps are essentially ubuntu-only I have an ~/app directory for appimages permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago Ty for both permalink fedilink source parent [+] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago That's why I whenever I download an appimage that I intend to use somewhat regurarly, I typically make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications so it shows up in my app menu or rofi or dmenu or whatever and I don't have to go looking for it. It also helps to have a folder you toss them all into permalink fedilink source parent [–] gworl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago Correct permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chocrates@piefed.world 9 points 6 months ago (12 children) Whats wrong with snaps? My only "issue" with appimages is i tend to leave them in my downloads folder and lose them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 20 points 6 months ago* The snap store is a shit show of security issues. Forced migration to snaps. Performance issues. Proprietary back end. Slow to install Slow to start Eat up RAM Eat up disk space They screw up access to devices. They automatically update themselves without user confirmation. Fuck snaps. Fuck Canonical. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alfredon996@feddit.it 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) My issues with snaps are: The server software is closed source and centralized They create many block devices that can slow down booting the PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago I didn't realize, damn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (4 children) There's an appimaged daemon you can install that will manage them, and it watches a bunch of folders to integrate appimages with xdg and whatever window manager you've got. ~/Applications looks like an easy pick, or ~/.local/bin. Appimages you decide to keep you can just move there! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) Why do you keep appimages? I don't do that and now I'm wondering if I do something wrong. But I try to install from repos as much as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quibblekrust 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The appImage is the program. If you don't keep it, you don't have the program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago* I've used one or two tools that only distribute for my system as an appimage or as source code. I can't always be bothered to set up a compilation environment or deal with removing dependencies. I only use one or two regularly, but it's nice to have them integrated! I prefer from the distro's repos, then source, then flatpack, then appimage. Sometimes you have to take what you can get! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) snaps are essentially ubuntu-only I have an ~/app directory for appimages permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago Ty for both permalink fedilink source parent [+] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago That's why I whenever I download an appimage that I intend to use somewhat regurarly, I typically make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications so it shows up in my app menu or rofi or dmenu or whatever and I don't have to go looking for it. It also helps to have a folder you toss them all into permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 20 points 6 months ago* The snap store is a shit show of security issues. Forced migration to snaps. Performance issues. Proprietary back end. Slow to install Slow to start Eat up RAM Eat up disk space They screw up access to devices. They automatically update themselves without user confirmation. Fuck snaps. Fuck Canonical. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alfredon996@feddit.it 20 points 6 months ago* (1 child) My issues with snaps are: The server software is closed source and centralized They create many block devices that can slow down booting the PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago I didn't realize, damn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago I didn't realize, damn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] med@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (4 children) There's an appimaged daemon you can install that will manage them, and it watches a bunch of folders to integrate appimages with xdg and whatever window manager you've got. ~/Applications looks like an easy pick, or ~/.local/bin. Appimages you decide to keep you can just move there! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) Why do you keep appimages? I don't do that and now I'm wondering if I do something wrong. But I try to install from repos as much as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quibblekrust 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The appImage is the program. If you don't keep it, you don't have the program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago* I've used one or two tools that only distribute for my system as an appimage or as source code. I can't always be bothered to set up a compilation environment or deal with removing dependencies. I only use one or two regularly, but it's nice to have them integrated! I prefer from the distro's repos, then source, then flatpack, then appimage. Sometimes you have to take what you can get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) Why do you keep appimages? I don't do that and now I'm wondering if I do something wrong. But I try to install from repos as much as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quibblekrust 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The appImage is the program. If you don't keep it, you don't have the program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago* I've used one or two tools that only distribute for my system as an appimage or as source code. I can't always be bothered to set up a compilation environment or deal with removing dependencies. I only use one or two regularly, but it's nice to have them integrated! I prefer from the distro's repos, then source, then flatpack, then appimage. Sometimes you have to take what you can get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quibblekrust 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The appImage is the program. If you don't keep it, you don't have the program. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 1 point 6 months ago I'm sorry, I was an idiot. I thought appimages are debs when I made the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago* I've used one or two tools that only distribute for my system as an appimage or as source code. I can't always be bothered to set up a compilation environment or deal with removing dependencies. I only use one or two regularly, but it's nice to have them integrated! I prefer from the distro's repos, then source, then flatpack, then appimage. Sometimes you have to take what you can get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 6 months ago (1 child) snaps are essentially ubuntu-only I have an ~/app directory for appimages permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chocrates@piefed.world 1 point 6 months ago Ty for both permalink fedilink source parent
[+] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago That's why I whenever I download an appimage that I intend to use somewhat regurarly, I typically make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications so it shows up in my app menu or rofi or dmenu or whatever and I don't have to go looking for it. It also helps to have a folder you toss them all into permalink fedilink source parent