MoffKalast comments on might be a form of Jevons Paradox

might be a form of Jevons Paradox (thelemmy.club)

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[+] MoffKalast@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago* (15 children)

Bloated electron apps are what makes Linux on desktop viable today at all, but you guys aren't ready for that conversation.

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Yes, in that the existence of bloated electron apps tends to cause web apps to be properly maintained, as a side effect.

But thankfully, we don't actually have to use the Electron version, to benefit.

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[–] G_M0N3Y_2503@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

Unless it's Teams apparently, that's the last Electron app I want to install.

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[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 14 points 6 months ago

I can only think of a couple Electron apps I use, and none that are important or frequently used.

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[–] drislands@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (11 children)

Uhhh like what?

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[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Note, I don't know how comprehensive this wiki list is, just quick research

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_using_Electron

From those, I'm only currently using a handful.

balenaEtcher, Discord, Synergy, and Obsidian

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[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The viability of linux isn't dependent on them though

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[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Agreed. I wasn't the one that claimed that

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[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

It's dependant on being able to run everything anyone could possibly need. "I don't use it, therfore it is not essential" is the kind of approach that's always made it niche.

Of course Adobe is still missing.

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[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

My point was that a list of programs doesn't inherently determine whether or not Linux is a viable operating system, its viability varies based on each users workflow.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

Spotify, Steam

Balena Etcher is a software crime though.

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[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What’s wrong with balena etcher?

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s hundreds of megabytes for something that unetbootin, image writer, and others do in a couple of MBs.

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[–] slappyfuck@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

Oh dang, is that the overheard of the software framework it uses? I think that’s what this thread was about but I can’t remember.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago

Yes, it’s built with electron. It’s a fancy web page and browser packaged as an app.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Steam UI uses chromium embedded framework which saves 50% of the ram and startup time.

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