IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds comments on An 18-year-old woman in Queensland faces two years in jail for wearing a shirt that says "from the river to the sea."

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Israeli population is without a doubt evil, they keep voting for genocide and apartheid. Not doing a genocide is a fringe idea there. you can blame generations of propaganda, but you can't use that to absolve them for the horrors they created.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

I have a problem with the use of the word "evil", and even when I do it myself, I am aware it is only a crutch to describe people with what I consider to be brain (developmental) damage to the point of narcissism and having no empathy.

But as I said, propaganda is strong. Calling the Israeli population evil is misunderstanding the problem and is accordingly not helpful at all in finding a solution (which I do not have either). That said, yes, it is shocking what evil acts are okay with people in Israel, but there are hundreds of millions of people in other parts of the world who also find such atrocities acceptable. And in my own country of origin, Germany, we definitely have our own share of people who do not give a fuck about the Palestinians and shrug off the ongoing genocide as "self defense".

What is happening is horrible, but dehumanizing Israelis is NOT a solution - but it's a really dangerous path towards keeping a blood feud alive.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm talking from lived experience, I am Israeli, I lived there, have family there. And they are incredibly racist people. you can blame generations of propaganda, but the reality that they are extremely hateful towards arabs.

the first joke my roommate told me at work "what do you call an arab drawning in the sea? pollution, how do you call 9 million (Palestinian population at the time) arabs drawning in the sea? Solution".

Yes, I met some who hated it, and wanted peace and equality with arabs (still wouldn't call them Palestinians), but they are a tiny minority.

they keep voting for this genocide, they celebrate it. they go to places to see the bombs falling as if it where a fire works show. they made a fuzz about the right of prison guards to rape Palestinians, turning the guard who raped Palestinian prisoners into a national hero.

whatever the reason (you can bring up the Standford prison experiment) they are evil, and if you want to disagree, you can't disagree that they act evil. they see their neighbors and not see them as human. If we wait for their consent to end the genocide, it'll never end.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

whatever the reason (you can bring up the Standford prison experiment) they are evil, and if you want to disagree, you can’t disagree that they act evil. they see their neighbors and not see them as human. If we wait for their consent to end the genocide, it’ll never end.

You make the relevant distinction yourself: "they" (I don't like the word when there's clearly exceptions) act evil. No doubt about that. That doesn't mean Israeli people are inherently worse or better than the rest of us.

And in the current scenario, there's no consent to be awaited, but the necessary international action to boycott Israel (and other genocidal/ terrorist states) at all fronts is simply not happening, and that is depressing.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

i don't mean that Israelis are inherently evil, like they have evil genes, or they are demonic. just that their actions reflect that. I still deal with Israelis regularly, and God, they all need some serious deprogramming.

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