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Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US (www.uber.com)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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When women riders and drivers told us they wanted more control over how they ride and earn, we listened. That feedback led to Women Preferences, features designed to give women the choice to ride with other women. Since our first pilots last summer, we’ve heard just how much that choice matters—from feeling more comfortable in the back seat to more confident behind the wheel.

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[–] 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (85 children)

can males avoid women drivers or is that considered sexist? what if a male wants to mitigate the chance of being falsely accused of assault/rape? I hope people have the choice regardless of gender

edit: the downvotes are funny... I assume people think I mean women should not have the choice, but I mean the opposite. EVERYONE should have a choice, or no one. it's call being fair. rape/sexual assault is not a good scenario for anyone and if people are fearful, they should be allowed to make a choice that allows them to feel comfortable. the downvotes just show me that people are disrespectful/not caring when it comes to fairness and equality. l.. or they are just flat out sexist pricks.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    It might be considered sexist, depending on who you ask.

    The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault. Hence why there has been provided a measure for women at this scale, and not for men.

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  • [–] 44 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    As a domestic abuser survivor (of a woman), a lot of us men are just not taken seriously. It is a lot like how people diminish one person's pain/suffering just because it "isn't as bad" as someone else's pain. Men are absolutely abused, raped, and falsely accused. But because it happens to women more, we have to bear our suffering in silence.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    No one is saying that men cannot be victims of harassment or assault.

    However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.

    How do you know that it is objectively true, if you also know these statistics are based around a culture that discourages men from reporting this problem?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    And that's why there should be a "no foreigners or blacks"-option.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Per RAINN, 57% of perpetrators are white. I'll charitably imagine you're attempting to point out perceived hypocrisy in gender vs race selection, but you're perpetuating racist and xenophobic stereotypes. White men commit rape at more than twice the rate of black men, and naturally born citizens commit crimes at rates higher than both documented and undocumented immigrants.

    If you want to make the case that it's a discriminatory policy, you're welcome to do so, but tying it to false perceptions of race is probably not the best move. It's coming off as reactionary at best.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    The actual argument is that it's acceptable to discriminate against people of color because data shows they are considerably more violent than whites.

    The same thing applies to discriminating against men because data shows they are considerably more violent than women.

    Sexism and racism are okay if you have the data to back it up. Unless... this is a double standard and we're allowing discrimination based on sex but not discrimination based on race?

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  • [+] 25 points 6 months ago (20 children)
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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    I never understood this fear.

    Always seems weird when people are more worried about accusations than sexual assault/harassement. The latter seems far more common ime, even if you are seen as a guy.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I think it's a perspective thing.

    Men are less likely to perceive themselves as potential SA victims (regardless of actual numbers): so the relative subjective "chance" of false accusations against them vs being victims themselves impacts their priorities.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I've been sexually assaulted multiple times over my life, all by women. I did not conceive of the actions as assault until I heard women's claims, of the same actions, be accepted as a form of sexual assault. Men absolutely under report their sexual assault, especially as the definition continues to be expand, including more behaviors that men have already dismissed.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Why? Most people, most of the time, focus on the perceived threats to themselves. Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault. What is seen as a danger to them is likely what they'll focus on. And that's a very reasonable and fair thing to do. Is that not exactly what women do when they focus on the risk of sexual assault and not on the risk of false accusations?

    Both are legitimate fears. Both make sense. Both should be respected but only one actually is, across society.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault.

    Are they? The former seems pretty much unheard of while the latter ain't uncommon. I think the only subgroup of men where the risk of being "falsely" accused of SA is high are men who commit SA and just don't believe it is SA. Of course perception of risk can vary and the (perceived) severity of the event matters as well.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I have never been afraid of being falsely accused of assault or rape because I have never done anything even close to anything that can be defined as assault or rape, or shown any behavior or tendencies to do so.

    I think you're missing the basic definition of what a false accusation is, here. The whole point of it is that you didn't do the thing that you're being accused of.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Yeah that's pretty ignorant of them. It might reduce the risk, because the circumstances make it harder to convincingly lie about, but it doesn't ensure anything. One circumstance of uncertainty and a skilled and motivated individual is all it takes.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    You ever tried taking a little girl to the park when you identified as a man?

    It gets really weird when complete strangers go up to her and ask her if she knows you.

    They don't do that when you present as a woman.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.

    So a women getting actually raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.

    And that is only counting all the instances where the rape got reported.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.

    LOL how could you possibly know that?

    So a women getting actually raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.

    Not sure what you're getting at here. Do you think this is some sort of competition for who is the biggest victim? And only the victor should be granted "equality"?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    people just... don't get it. I'm shocked everytime I mention equality, and get met with the above nonsense. lol

    I will never understand people's thought processes. if I said no women should have this, sure... but I'm asking for everyone to have the same right, like... what?

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