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Bluesky CEO Jay Graber Is Stepping Down (www.wired.com)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] 35 points 6 months ago (17 children)

It was always going to be this way. It didn't take long to see the signs of enshittification on BSky. They were subpoenaed for user info, they banned journalists, implemented age verification, and I left when they started adding link redirects and tracking.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    They banned journalists? Who?

    And I didn't know about the redirects and tracking either. They are doing that without ads?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (15 children)

    https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-censorship-and-country-based-moderation/

    And I didn't know about the redirects and tracking either. They are doing that without ads?

    Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself. Open any link and the link you clicked is hijacked back to a BSky domain.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    The claimed reason for that is to highlight "referrer" links for the sites people go to from bsky.

    My understanding is that if you click like https://www.themarysue.com/ the website operators would see a "feddit.org" or "lemmy.world" referer if you're using a web browser and don't have a defeating option enabled, but not if your browser is locked down or you use an app. The immediate redirects, however, do consistently show in the web site's access logs.

    It's possible bsky could fuck around with this in the future, but doing so risks just sending users to a pseudo-fork like blacksky.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    but doing so risks just sending users to a pseudo-fork like blacksky.

    I think if there's anything we've learned at this point, it's that it's extremely hard to get users to leave a platform they have connections on. That's always the plan.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    That's why bsky's pseudo-federation isn't as big a deal as some ActivityPub boosters claim.

    As I understand it, if lemmy.world shuts down or starts demanding cash my only resource would be the same as if Facebook decides I'm too critical of billionaires -- start all over elsewhere with a new account. Sure, I could get close to the same experience with a different node, but I'd be a brand new account with no history. I might as well go someplace else entirely.

    Bsky's "portable user" idea fixes that. There are accounts my bsky account follows who switched to blacksky, and if they hadn't said they'd changed I wouldn't have noticed. The essential identity of their account shifted almost seamlessly, and they "federate" with everyone else, aside that their appview shows accounts that bsky's ordinary moderation hides.

    I don't have any illusions about how altruistic the cryptobro VC's are. But the entirely of their value proposition is that "leaving bsky" should be about as painless as porting your number from Verizon to AT&T.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    AP accounts are also portable...

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    What? You tell me I could have actually moved all my comments, votes, saves and posting history from my old lemmy.world account to my new one?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    Lemmy and PieFed are not analogous to BlueSky. That would be more Mastodon, Misskey, Pixelfed, etc. So, in just about every other case, yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    I couldn't do that when I moved Mastodon instances, I could only set up a notice that was little more than a built-in "Moved to x" pinned post

    Don't know about the other ones though, I have to say that

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Yes you can

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    I guess I don't care that much at this point but I'm out as soon as I see the first ad.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Why wait? Why continue contributing value and investing in the platform? The longer you wait, the harder it becomes.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I'm easily out if they screw it up, I'm in the fediverse at least as much as there. So far, I'm OK with them and I want to see what happens with this protocol. Mastodon needs some work too.

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