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LTT does another Linux Challenge (youtu.be)
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[–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

What's the difference between watching him struggle with popos or having my mother do the same?

I can't watch your mom on youtube? Average windows users will want to know if they can make the switch with their average windows user knowledge and approach, that's valuable information to them.

If he used all these special resources he has, that would be akin to those "I built this super awesome table from scrap wood I found behind my local supermarket" videos that fail to mention they also used the 100.000 bucks worth of tools in their professional woodworking shop. And people would then rightfully complain about that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (2 children)

    You clearly misunderstood me. I don't think there's much value for someone looking for an easy way into Linux watching someone who already knows the drill. Linus whole motive is helping non tech savvy people with tech things, and I think he could have done a lot better about communicating the state of Linux after installing popos (something you couldn't watch my mother do even if I livestreamed it to you). He also did not show the troubleshooting afterwards or even testing another distro which can be done very quickly, and declared that Linux still isn't a good out of the box experience after just one test. To be fair, I also encounter some bugs now and then, but so does every OS. The message I think his video is lacking is that everyone can figure out Linux for general purpose usage. What's the tech tip otherwise? Stay on Windows because it is a good out of the box experience? From what I remember after tinkering many years before switching to Linux, setting up Windows is a slow, data recollecting riddled, expensive miserable experience. Linux is literally free, he should encourage people to try it.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    He also did not show the troubleshooting afterwards or even testing another distro which can be done very quickly, and declared that Linux still isn't a good out of the box experience after just one test.

    Because he had people waiting for him in a game lobby (that's the thing I'd actually give him shit for, trying out a new OS at a LAN) and decided to fall back to a known working OS to be able to get on with his day. And that's exactly what many average users would do in a similar situation (not necessarily sitting at a LAN but maybe urgently needing to get on with productive task x y or z instead of troubleshooting).

    He also did not declare "that Linux still isn't a good out of the box experience after just one test.", this is a multi part series and he already said he tried different distros afterwards.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    I think the purpose of the video is to review who you can just tell to switch to linux and have them be able to do it unassisted in a short time frame. I think it does a pretty good job of showing that, the type of person linus was emulating represents a pretty large group of people and they generally can't switch without either a large amount of frustration or a helpful friend. Also keep in mind this is the first in a series not a single video.

    I think you are grossly overestimating people's capabilities if you think anyone can switch to linux with no interactive help. https://xkcd.com/2501/ . "Setting up windows" for most people means swiping the credit card and pressing the power button. They do not care about data collection, and if its slow then they think they should buy the upgraded model.

    I also think its funny how many of the people in this thread see this as a negative video, when I think it actually shows things in a very positive light, just a realistic one. I have already had someone switch to linux because of this video.

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