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The New York City police department plans to pilot the unmanned aircrafts in response to complaints about large gatherings, including private events, over Labor Day weekend, officials announced Thursday.

“If a caller states there’s a large crowd, a large party in a backyard, we’re going to be utilizing our assets to go up and go check on the party,” Kaz Daughtry, the assistant NYPD Commissioner, said at a press conference.

The plan drew immediate backlash from privacy and civil liberties advocates, raising questions about whether such drone use violated existing laws for police surveillance.

“It’s a troubling announcement and it flies in the face of the POST Act,” said Daniel Schwarz, a privacy and technology strategist at the New York Civil Liberties Union, referring to a 2020 city law that requires the NYPD to disclose its surveillance tactics. “Deploying drones in this way is a sci-fi inspired scenario.”

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It becomes illegal when there are too many people there, or there is violence, underage drinking, drug usage, and if it's too loud, the attendees are parking in the street blocking traffic, fire risks all sorts of shit

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They are not responding to complains, they are searching themselves.

EDIT: my eyes. They are responding. Still very wierd. Crowd itself is not a crime, article 20 of DoHR says so.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article specifically says in response to complaints...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be construed as, they can start indefinite surveillance on an area after a complaint is filed at any time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Someone complained 3 weeks ago so we're just checking it out"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As does the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Those sound like things they need a warrant to learn about in a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they doing this in white, affluent communities?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We should try to make them

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is illegal to have to many people at your own home? That's a new one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only in the context of like, fire safety. You can't have more people in a building than it is designed to safely hold.

Of course, cops use this safety regulation as an excuse to control people and be dicks...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Nyc's greatest act was convincing everyone they're a liberal city.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Freedom isn't free. And the price tag has been increasing so fast

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's all stuff people can call the cops for, no need for surveillance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So the cops and fuck with your backyard party if you smoke a joint?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Joint? Nah, hard drugs, fo sho (unless you are a billionaire).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

What a waste of time and resources.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How they will distinguish cigaretes, joints and hard drugs?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would a drone know? Other than capacity and street violations, there's nothing that a drone should realistically be able to identify.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think the drone operators would do the identifying part

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So people having fun is a problem for you lol