▲ 23 ▼ news media claims Proton mail helped FBI unmask anonymous stop cop city protestors: (www.404media.co) submitted 5 months ago by Bullerfar@lemmy.world to c/protonprivacy@lemmy.world 34 comments fedilink hide all child comments Is this true??
[–] Steve@communick.news 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children) Since they "helped" the Swiss court by following necessary Swiss law, didn't they "help" the FBI? If they didn't even know the FBI was asking the Swiss courts, one could still say what they they did was "helpful" to the FBI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) No. That's the point. We have different ideas about what it means to help. I think help is simply doing something (or not doing something) that benefits someone else. You (and others) seem to also give it some additional qualities related to consent, agrement, or support. Since I don't ascribe any moral judgement to the word and only use its most limited literal meaning, I hope it's more clear to you how confusing it can be when you infer morality from amoral terms, and try to refrain from doing so in the future. Communication would be much smoother if people were more deliberately literal with their word choice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're being very pedantic for nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) Yes. It would save a lot of confusion online if people were more pedantic. One might even call it helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) No. You're creating debates and arguments over insignificant shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 5 months ago The two aren't mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) No. That's the point. We have different ideas about what it means to help. I think help is simply doing something (or not doing something) that benefits someone else. You (and others) seem to also give it some additional qualities related to consent, agrement, or support. Since I don't ascribe any moral judgement to the word and only use its most limited literal meaning, I hope it's more clear to you how confusing it can be when you infer morality from amoral terms, and try to refrain from doing so in the future. Communication would be much smoother if people were more deliberately literal with their word choice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) No. That's the point. We have different ideas about what it means to help. I think help is simply doing something (or not doing something) that benefits someone else. You (and others) seem to also give it some additional qualities related to consent, agrement, or support. Since I don't ascribe any moral judgement to the word and only use its most limited literal meaning, I hope it's more clear to you how confusing it can be when you infer morality from amoral terms, and try to refrain from doing so in the future. Communication would be much smoother if people were more deliberately literal with their word choice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're being very pedantic for nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) Yes. It would save a lot of confusion online if people were more pedantic. One might even call it helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) No. You're creating debates and arguments over insignificant shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 5 months ago The two aren't mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) Yes. It would save a lot of confusion online if people were more pedantic. One might even call it helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) No. You're creating debates and arguments over insignificant shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 5 months ago The two aren't mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) No. You're creating debates and arguments over insignificant shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 5 months ago The two aren't mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 5 months ago The two aren't mutually exclusive. permalink fedilink source parent