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Microplastics and nanoplastics in urban air originate mainly from tire abrasion, research reveals (phys.org)
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[–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

i love trains and bikes but the infrastructure doesn't exist and we're shitty at building it so I guess everybody in the lurch in the meantime is supposed to starve to death

Obviously yes, unlimited genocide on all the KKKar DriverSS /s

The point is why would you stop building / inhabitating suburban sprawl if the electric car gets you there and back just fine? Like what changes here for it to herald the 2 decades of bike and rail construction?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    because living in the suburbs is miserable even with electric cars? we need government intervention and central planning for any of this anyway, it'll take time and whatever you're imagining instead would be more expensive.

    optimizing for the end of suburbs as quickly as possible just because we hate suburbs isn't the actual objective.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    because living in the suburbs is miserable even with electric cars?

    I certainly think so, but somehow those houses keep getting bought

    we need government intervention and central planning for any of this anyway

    True, I don't blame people for buying EV cars. Either you save some money - which is good - or you pay more for the common good of reducing CO2 - also good!

    EDIT: Just to be sure; doing the better thing but paying for it is bad, but like good on an individual levle

    But like sticking to the US theme, the republicans aren't going to do it and the last democratic president hooned an 8 ton E-Hummer around and then called it the future of transportation (when he wasn't busy suggesting everybody not in a car would be required to carry a transponder so self driving cars could happen). So who enacts the change here? The suburbians sure won't, everything is the same except their car goes MMMMMM instead of vroom now.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I certainly think so, but somehow those houses keep getting bought

    a lot of that is equity firms, but we're not building comblocks either so the alternative is legacy housing that's unobtainably expensive or renting forever. Developers need to be prevented from building that shit, but people don't have a lot of agency in housing, see tiny homes and van shit getting way more popular over the last decade.

    there's like a hundred things that need to happen all at once, very few US politicians are interested in making any of them happen, and in the meantime we might as well have electric cars instead of SUVs.

    i'd love to ride my bike in the winter but the city doesn't clear snow promptly enough or on sidewalks so i'd just die if i tried.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    a lot of that is equity firms, but we're not building comblocks either so the alternative is legacy housing that's unobtainably expensive or renting forever. Developers need to be prevented from building that shit, but people don't have a lot of agency in housing,

    well, yes, again, but then also again: how do EVs change the equation here?

    there's like a hundred things that need to happen all at once, very few US politicians are interested in making any of them happen, and in the meantime we might as well have electric cars instead of SUVs.

    there's no in the meantime. All the needed changes I assume we agree on could be done in the now, but they won't be, and they also won't be once you exchange every ICE car for an EV because why would you? The system can keep on trucking fine with EVs instead of ICE cars, why change?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    why the hell would electric cars have anything to do with blackrock buying all the housing and landlords extracting onerous rents? they're better cars while we have to have cars, that's it.

    the "meantime" is the time the process of reorganizing society so most people don't need cars will take.

    we don't live in a vacuum of ignoring politics to go ride bikes to work or the grocery store in january

    i don't know what you're arguing against. are you're some kind of Internal combustion engine accelerationist?

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