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"Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Department of War — as Anthropic refuses to surveil American citizens (www.windowscentral.com)
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[–] 3 points 6 months ago* (12 children)

They both signed the contract. They both allegedly hold the exact same set of red lines. One of them just gets to pretend to be the virtuous company with the virtuous capitalist CEO, despite showing tons of red flags that should have you scrambling to be as concerned about them as OpenAI.

If you read their statement, Good Guy Anthropic is totally cool with

  • Mass surveillance of non-Americans
  • Targeted surveillance of Americans
  • Semi-autonomous bombings
  • Fully autonomous bombings... in the future
  • The exact same Red Scare BS that Sam Altman talks about
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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (11 children)

    They literally didn't sign the new contract and now they are getting punished for it. What are you even talking about?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (10 children)

    According to OpenAI, there is no difference between the old contract and the new contract.

    And if you read Dario Amodei's actual words, he says his preference is to continue working with the Department of "War" and America's "Warfighters." You don't have to defend a man who is this evil, and this much of pro-war Trump suckup.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children)

    I still don't get your point. Anthropic didn't sign the contract, OpenAI did.

    The contract is too loose, it pretty much allows them to do whatever they want.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (8 children)

    Show me where the contracts differ. OpenAI says they don't. Unless Dario Amodei speaks up, why assume they do?

    I've shown you plenty of stuff that should make you hate Dario Amodei. Unless you support the current state of the US military as much as he does, I don't know why you are defending the pro-Trump pro-war suckup.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    Okay, so listen:

    The DoW offered Anthropic the contract and they declined, as it has clauses that would allow the government to do whatever they wanted.

    Then OpenAI signed the same contract.

    How can you say they are the same, when the first company refused the contract? I'm not even from the US and definitely not pro Trump. But there's things besides black and white.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (6 children)

    Okay, so listen.

    OpenAI claims they have the same standards as Anthropic. OpenAI signed the deal, even reiterated they have the same joke of "red lines."

    Can you show me the difference between the old contract and the new one? Because if you can't, you're making assumptions.

    Presuming your making assumptions, riddle me this: is Sam Altman a liar?

    Presuming Sam Altman isn't a liar: Why isn't pro-war Dario Amodei calling him on it?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    Dario Amodei is busy calling out the pile of shit that's the US government. Fighting Altman doesn't get him anything right now.

    https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-comments-secretary-war

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Okay, so you agree Altman is a liar, but Dario is too busy to call him out? Warmonger Dario Amodei has had days.

    Dario is too busy glazing Pete Hegseth's war machine.

    To the best of our knowledge, these exceptions have not affected a single government mission to date.

    And Dario Amodei is too busy supporting Pete Hegseth's attacks, like on Venezuelan fishermen.

    Anthropic has supported American warfighters since June 2024....

    Dario supports this.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/28/what-countries-has-trump-attacked-since-returning-to-office

    ...and has every intention of continuing to do so.

    So I guess this includes the Iran invasion. Dario craves blood.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's Iran, not Iraq.

    Just calm down, I'm not pro AI, but we can still be positive about someone making the right choice for once.

    Throwing enough money around there's plenty of other options for the DoW, be it Microsoft, Google or even hosting their own LLM (open source models are pretty much on-par now).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    You do not, in fact, have to hand it to him?

    You don't have to praise the "fair" and "just capitalism" qualities of 99% Hitler when you can choose 0% Hitler.

    I'll change my statement: Iraq, not Iran. Will you change yours: Dario is a warmonger who wants to enable Trump and Hegseth and continued to do so? You didn't contest that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I honestly care less about the war mongering and more about the "domestic surveillance" part. Like domestic just counts for US citizens, which I'm not. So fuck him too (:

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