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[+] -6 points 6 months ago (19 children)

World appears to be solid/stable at first but on closer inspection is actually vibratory.

It's ok to have points of agreement. You don't have to mock and bicker 100% of the time.

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  • [+] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)
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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    https://scienceinsights.org/do-humans-glow-the-science-of-our-bodys-invisible-light/

    The answer to whether humans glow is a definitive yes. Our bodies continuously emit a faint, steady light, a phenomenon known as Ultraweak Photon Emission (UPE), or biophotons. This glow is a byproduct of our fundamental biological processes, rendering it completely invisible to the naked eye. Unlike the dramatic, visible light produced by fireflies (bioluminescence), this subtle radiance provides scientists with a novel way to peer into the inner workings of cellular health and metabolism.

    https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2018/06/four-ways-human-mind-shapes-reality

    It might sound like a pseudoscientific fantasy, but the mind can shape health, behavior and maybe even society as a whole. Stanford researchers are bridging disciplines to understand what our minds can do and how they do it.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/choosing-your-meditation-style/202512/why-thoughts-have-power

    what we expect, believe, and even feel profoundly alters how we experience the world. Put differently, the mind is not a passive observer. It is a predictive, generative, reality-filtering system—one that continually constructs the lens through which we live our daily experiences.

    How does it feel to be confidently wrong?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    He wasn't.

    You can't see the biophotons.

    Humans have no way of detecting, experiencing them, without complex instruments.

    They do not factor in to any decision making activity in our brain, because we have no senses capable of receiving them as input.

    Read your own source.

    The way that people colloquially use 'aura' is as if they have some kind of magical ability to see things other people can't, that indicate things about that aura-haver's emotional or mental or spiritual state.

    They can't, biophotons do none of that, they're just a nearly undetectable form of light that's emmitted by essentially anything that has an active metabolism, ie, is not dead.

    They're just using a made-up concept to describe internal herusitics in their mind, ie, their intuition.

    Sure, they've used their mind in the way that your last two sources sort of hint at, but its a delusion, its failing to understand their own mind giving rise to a psuedo religious concept.

    The only reality, the only power in 'auras' as a concept is sociological, indirect, as a reference with no referent.

    Auras being a thing be people can see and use... that's on the same level of 'real' as 'Christ died for our sins'.

    If you mean to use a different definition of aura, as in just a glow of light, then sure, technically all living matter has an imperceptible aura.

    Could these UPEs play some kind of way into extremely short distance cellular interactions? Yes!

    But thats... not what people mean, 95% of the time, when they're talking about a person's aura.

    This is the whole problem of using woo woo terms.

    You can't conflate two different meanings of words and then act like that is not what you are doing.

    You also should specify what you mean, in cases where a word has different meanings in different domains.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The whole thing about auras is that they're not visibly perceptible either. Some people claim to be able to see them, but that's a completely separate argument from the much more common belief that they exist.

    And according to science, they do exist. They can be detected with certain instruments and even reveal data about health and metabolism.

    Biophotons are an imperceptible glow of light that surround living organisms. Auras are an imperceptible glow of light that surround living organisms. Therefore, biophotons are auras.

    You can call bullshit on someone claiming to be able to see auras, but if you're saying auras don't exist because science calls them something different, then you're simply wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If you mean to use a different definition of aura, as in just a glow of light, then sure, technically all living matter has an imperceptible aura.

    Could these UPEs play some kind of way into extremely short distance cellular interactions? Yes!

    But thats... not what people mean, 95% of the time, when they're talking about a person's aura.

    This is the whole problem of using woo woo terms.

    You can't conflate two different meanings of words and then act like that is not what you are doing.

    You also should specify what you mean, in cases where a word has different meanings in different domains.

    • Myself, from the comment you replied to.
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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    So you decided to monopolize the meaning of the term as strictly something that you can point to as obviously wrong, and when I point out that that's a mischaracterization you cite... yourself... as corroborating evidence.

    You go champ.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There's more and more evidence that we are affected by and emit light in various ways. Did you also know that there is a flash of light when a sperm meets an egg?

    Since light is a kind of radiant energy and we evolved alongside the sun for so long, it's not actually that far a leap that our biology would make use of it in some way, if you think about it.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    You're changing the subject to auras and telekinesis: not what was being discussed.

    What will the mockery get for you?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Hopefully the people mocked will adapt to social pressure and change their beliefs in order to fit in better. Bullying generally does work, even if it sucks. The only alternative is to simply murder the ones you disagree with and that sucks even more for multiple reasons, chiefly that right now numbers are against us.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Do you know this first-hand? Give us an example of a belief you hold primarily because of bullying.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I'd say every belief in the entirety of my socialization as a child was formed through bullying of some sort. You try something, people laugh, mock, beat, harass, it feels bad, your social brain says that was bad, you remember it because it feels bad, you adjust and don't repeat to avoid feeling bad again.

    That's how human communities select for behaviour.

    As an adult I'd say whether I like it or not I've become increasingly more tolerant of conservatives because of them shoving their shit down our throats everywhere. Things I'd consider so absurd they're not worth the time of day are now ideas that seem almost sensible enough to warrant a rebuttal. I don't like it, but they hold all the cards and make the rules and it works well for them, imo.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    This is what I don't like about the top meme, though. Like, yes, energy, frequency, and vibration are all things. Obviously. But the top meme is implying that everyone should believe that those things work in the specific ways that the woo practitioners say they do, and that's a very different demand. More, it's implying that people who doubt those effects are ignoring obvious evidence, when in fact the people who doubt those effects do so because nobody has been able to demonstrate reliable evidence for them. It has a nasty gaslighting overtone to it.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    There's not enough information in the top meme to know what theories it's about.

    Things vibrate in a way that isn't obvious to an unexamined view. If I look at a pebble, it appears to be non-vibratory, still. But a mystic or scientist who has really investigated it closely, exposed it to close analysis, can tell you that the reality of the pebble is vibration, not stillness.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it's talking about people thinking that "energy, frequency and vibration are just mystical nonsense." People don't think that if you talk about an FM station broadcasting on a particular frequency, or about the frequency of light absorbed by particular atomic orbitals. They think that if you're explaining that you've slept much better since you placed jasper and amethyst on the ley lines near your bed to absorb the negative frequencies.

    The implication in the meme that anyone who is using these terms cannot be indulging in mystical nonsense, because these terms can also apply to real things. In fact, though, mystic cranks have been coopting scientific terms for ages, and they show no signs of slowing down. It's a real problem that people confuse crap with science.

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