▲ 2077 ▼ "Cancel ChatGPT" movement goes mainstream after OpenAI closes deal with U.S. Department of War — as Anthropic refuses to surveil American citizens (www.windowscentral.com) submitted 6 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world 234 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) They insisted Claude was human? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago (6 children) Sorry, not quite, but close. From 404 media When users confronted Clinton with their concerns, he brushed them off, said he would not submit to mob rule, and explained that AIs have emotions and that tech firms were working to create a new form of sentience, according to Discord logs and conversations with members of the group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) Oh, that guy! To be fair, that's one employee, not Anthropic's actions or position. You mentioned forcing their software on minorities while insisting it was better than it was, and I was getting OLPC flashbacks. But Anthropic looking for funding in the UAE and Qatar is shitty. I can't seem to find anything about whether or not they went through with those contracts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago* (4 children) Jason Clinton is Anthropic’s Deputy Chief Information Security Officer. That means Jason knew better, and he was using his position as a moderator (and supposedly a security expert) to try gaslighting a vulnerable minority into believing his favorite toy was "secure" when it was not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I'm not gonna defend him. But fucking up a discord that you're a mod of isn't really in the same ballpark as taking money from dictators or directing fully autonomous strikes. Also, from the read, it really sounds like that Deputy CISO was a prime example of cyber-psychosis, or AI mania, or whatever we've decided to call it. And I assume he is part of the same vulnerable minority? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago (6 children) Sorry, not quite, but close. From 404 media When users confronted Clinton with their concerns, he brushed them off, said he would not submit to mob rule, and explained that AIs have emotions and that tech firms were working to create a new form of sentience, according to Discord logs and conversations with members of the group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) Oh, that guy! To be fair, that's one employee, not Anthropic's actions or position. You mentioned forcing their software on minorities while insisting it was better than it was, and I was getting OLPC flashbacks. But Anthropic looking for funding in the UAE and Qatar is shitty. I can't seem to find anything about whether or not they went through with those contracts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago* (4 children) Jason Clinton is Anthropic’s Deputy Chief Information Security Officer. That means Jason knew better, and he was using his position as a moderator (and supposedly a security expert) to try gaslighting a vulnerable minority into believing his favorite toy was "secure" when it was not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I'm not gonna defend him. But fucking up a discord that you're a mod of isn't really in the same ballpark as taking money from dictators or directing fully autonomous strikes. Also, from the read, it really sounds like that Deputy CISO was a prime example of cyber-psychosis, or AI mania, or whatever we've decided to call it. And I assume he is part of the same vulnerable minority? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) Oh, that guy! To be fair, that's one employee, not Anthropic's actions or position. You mentioned forcing their software on minorities while insisting it was better than it was, and I was getting OLPC flashbacks. But Anthropic looking for funding in the UAE and Qatar is shitty. I can't seem to find anything about whether or not they went through with those contracts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago* (4 children) Jason Clinton is Anthropic’s Deputy Chief Information Security Officer. That means Jason knew better, and he was using his position as a moderator (and supposedly a security expert) to try gaslighting a vulnerable minority into believing his favorite toy was "secure" when it was not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I'm not gonna defend him. But fucking up a discord that you're a mod of isn't really in the same ballpark as taking money from dictators or directing fully autonomous strikes. Also, from the read, it really sounds like that Deputy CISO was a prime example of cyber-psychosis, or AI mania, or whatever we've decided to call it. And I assume he is part of the same vulnerable minority? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 6 months ago* (4 children) Jason Clinton is Anthropic’s Deputy Chief Information Security Officer. That means Jason knew better, and he was using his position as a moderator (and supposedly a security expert) to try gaslighting a vulnerable minority into believing his favorite toy was "secure" when it was not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I'm not gonna defend him. But fucking up a discord that you're a mod of isn't really in the same ballpark as taking money from dictators or directing fully autonomous strikes. Also, from the read, it really sounds like that Deputy CISO was a prime example of cyber-psychosis, or AI mania, or whatever we've decided to call it. And I assume he is part of the same vulnerable minority? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I'm not gonna defend him. But fucking up a discord that you're a mod of isn't really in the same ballpark as taking money from dictators or directing fully autonomous strikes. Also, from the read, it really sounds like that Deputy CISO was a prime example of cyber-psychosis, or AI mania, or whatever we've decided to call it. And I assume he is part of the same vulnerable minority? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Every example we have of Anthropic's behavior paints a picture of an immoral company that pretends to be moral. It's bad enough that they continue doing harm, but then they dress it up with phrases like "AI Safety" and "Information Security". (And every press release they create to describe how scary good their system is, tends to be followed up by a sudden cash infusion from an openly morally bankrupt company like Google or Amazon.) I reserve zero empathy for the people on the abuser side of an abusive dynamic. Maybe Elon Musk is autistic too. I don't really care. Only Moloch knows their hearts. I'll judge them for their actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I did find an update on that funding, btw. Anthropic already took money from Qatar (the QIA), but the amount isn't known - likely around $100M. The UAE has yet to happen, but if does, it would be "hundreds of millions". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Interesting. I appreciate you doing the digging to check. It's frustrating that people spent so much time looking at the fact that Anthropic had an uncrossed red line, they didn't look at all the red lines that were already crossed - in the very article about those supposed red lines. Such is PR I guess. I suppose you saw that "He Will Not Divide Us 2.0" letter from OpenAI and Google employees who promised to stand behind Anthropic. Never mind the fact OpenAI split.... Doesn't anybody know Google already does mass surveillance of Americans? ...I ramble. permalink fedilink source parent