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[–] 8 points 6 months ago (9 children)

The oppressed often support other oppressed. Only a small minority of Muslims are misogynistic assholes. Not much different than in any population. One can support the right to freedom of religion without actually liking religion.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

    Only a small minority of Muslims are misogynistic assholes. Not much different than in any population.

    U sure about that:

    Category / Attitude Description / Proxy Question South Asia (e.g., Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan) Southeast Asia (e.g., Indonesia, Malaysia) Middle East-North Africa (MENA) (e.g., Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco) Sub-Saharan Africa Central Asia & Southern/Eastern Europe Global Rough Estimate / Notes
    Support for Sharia as official law Favor making Sharia the law of the land (often includes traditional gender elements) ~84% (99% Afghanistan, 84% Pakistan; 2013 Pew) ~77% (72–86%; 2013 Pew); ~58% social media users in Madura, Indonesia (2025 study) ~74% (74–91% in many; 2013 Pew); recent data limited, but tied to rising patriarchal norms (Arab Barometer 2023-2024) ~64% (high in parts; 2013 Pew) 12–18% (8–12% in many; 2013 Pew) Majority overall (~50–70%+ weighted); persistent in populous regions; often limited to family matters
    Patriarchal family roles Agree wife must obey or men should have final say 90%+ (2013 Pew) High (often 80–90%+; 2013 Pew) Increased since 2021-2022; 58-75% men agree (e.g., 75% Kuwait, 71% Jordan, 70% Morocco); 27-53% women agree (e.g., 53% Morocco, 35% Kuwait); highest since tracking in some (Arab Barometer 2023-2024) Varies, often high (2013 Pew) 51–89% (lower in some; 2013 Pew) Majority in most surveyed countries; gender gaps wide (men higher); working female relatives reduce support by 6-17%
    Justification of wife-beating/domestic violence Husband justified in hitting/beating for reasons (e.g., arguing, refusing sex) Often 40–70%+ (very high in Afghanistan ~92%; UNICEF/DHS recent) Varies (30–60% in conservative areas; UNICEF/DHS) Plurality report increase in GBV past year (5/7 countries); no direct % on justification, but linked to patriarchal rise (Arab Barometer 2023-2024) High in Sahel/Somalia (~56–57%; UNICEF recent) Lower (often <40%; UNICEF/DHS) 40%+ common in high-population countries; tied to religiosity/education; actual rates comparable globally but attitudes permissive
    Unequal inheritance (traditional view) Oppose equal inheritance for sons & daughters Majority oppose (<50% support equality; 2013 Pew) Varies (2013 Pew) Majority oppose in many (<50%; 2013 Pew); no recent update Varies (2013 Pew) Higher support for equality (~76–88% in Turkey/Bosnia; 2013 Pew) Traditional view prevails in populous regions; one in four Arab Muslims support "Muslim feminism" reinterpreting for equality (2020 study)
    Women's right to decide on veiling Women should decide for themselves Lower in conservative areas (2013 Pew) High (80–90%+; 2013 Pew) Low in some (30–46% in Egypt/Jordan/Iraq/Afghanistan; 2013 Pew); no recent update Lower in parts (2013 Pew) High (80–90%+; 2013 Pew) High in secular/urban areas; lower where mandatory; broad support for women's choice in many
    Women's right to initiate divorce Women should have right to divorce Low in many (<30% Pakistan/Egypt/Jordan; 2013 Pew) Low in some (~8% Malaysia; 2013 Pew) Low in many; no recent update (2013 Pew) Varies (2013 Pew) High (>80% in many; 2013 Pew) Sharp regional divide; low where male-led; reinterpretations via "Muslim feminism" gaining (25% Arab support)

    Not to mention their literal profit the man they believe to be most holy married a 6 year old and fucked her when she was 9.

    One can support the right to freedom of religion without actually liking religion.

    And if Jeffry Epstein claimed what he was doing was a religion would it be OK to support peoples freedom to practice that religion?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Nice chart I'm sure but it isn't really readable on my phone. I think it shows views on various misogynistic attitudes for various regions. It probably matches pretty close to the U.S. general population in the 1950's especially if only polling men. Yes a lot of the Muslim world is socially behind the West - probably because they keep getting bombed back to the Stone Age. And it looks like the U.S. is regressing sadly.
    What people do under the guise of religion usually just reflects what they want to do without it. Look at the all the anti-everything-that-isn't-white-cis from many supposed Christians, when their book teaches quite the opposite. And there are plenty of misogynistic atheists. Yes Mohammed having a 6-yo is pretty fucked up, but normal Muslims don't advocate for child brides in this day - they attribute Mohammed's child sex as a product of the times - whether that's fair or not is beside the point - they don't see it as a license to fuck kids now.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    His chart lacks a proper source, so it's not even worth reading. Anyone sharing "stats" without being willing to share the source is hiding it because they know someone looking at the source would weaken their argument

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    You keep saying "profit" when you mean "phophet". I really can't take you very seriously when you don't know the difference between the words

    It makes it very clear you're regurgitating talking points, rather than being well educated on the topic

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    What a way to strawman a typo. Bravo - a new low

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