▲ 194 ▼ What desktop operating system would you recommend to the average user? (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 months ago by Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 241 comments fedilink hide all child comments Say a friend is looking for a new system, and said person is not particularly savvy with technology, what system would you point them toward?
[–] Deno@lemmy.world 110 points 6 months ago (3 children) Linux mint permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 25 points 6 months ago (1 child) I love mint, have you tried a KDE desktop though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Flagstaff@programming.dev -16 points 6 months ago (1 child) Yes, they're terrible because you can't navigate through their settings without a mouse. Tab only goes so far in KDE. I couldn't stand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago I respect your opinion, but it's not one that will be held by average users. permalink fedilink source parent [+] redsand@infosec.pub -10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Mint is not run by professionals. It has been pwnd more than once. It's pretty, slightly better run than manjaro and has no reason to exist when ubuntu, fedora and suse exist. Please stop pointing to mint as a starting place. Every level user is going to get a more secure and reliable experience avoiding mint. Ubuntu, fedora, suse and spins of those 3. I wouldn't put a normal user on anything else without extenuating circumstances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child) From what I can find, the Linux Mint website was breached once, in 2016, for a short duration and during that time the download link for the ISO referred to a site that was hosting a version that installed a backdoor. Meaning it was short in scope, the dev team reacted to it, handled it, and then were open and transparent about it, and it only affected people who downloaded the ISO at that exact span in time and also installed that version instead of replacing it when the announcement came. The harsh reality of IT security isn't that it's a question of if you get hacked, it's a question of when, even for multi-billion dollar companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago They got hacked a couple times before that though it may not be widely published. Mint originally existed as an "easier" and prettier unbuntu run by volenteers. They would be extremely unlikely to figure out they had been compromised by an APT. And before you say it, look up the 2016 hack, it wasn't an APT. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Besides what other people said, manjaro breaks regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago Yup. Manjaro is infamous. Mint is dolled up ubuntu by volunteers permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -18 points 6 months ago (1 child) Stupid fucking answer. I love Linux. I use it on multiple machines daily. It's not for an average user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago Correct, I wrote a decent comment about the actual issues with Linux for the average user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 25 points 6 months ago (1 child) I love mint, have you tried a KDE desktop though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Flagstaff@programming.dev -16 points 6 months ago (1 child) Yes, they're terrible because you can't navigate through their settings without a mouse. Tab only goes so far in KDE. I couldn't stand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago I respect your opinion, but it's not one that will be held by average users. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Flagstaff@programming.dev -16 points 6 months ago (1 child) Yes, they're terrible because you can't navigate through their settings without a mouse. Tab only goes so far in KDE. I couldn't stand it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago I respect your opinion, but it's not one that will be held by average users. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago I respect your opinion, but it's not one that will be held by average users. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] redsand@infosec.pub -10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Mint is not run by professionals. It has been pwnd more than once. It's pretty, slightly better run than manjaro and has no reason to exist when ubuntu, fedora and suse exist. Please stop pointing to mint as a starting place. Every level user is going to get a more secure and reliable experience avoiding mint. Ubuntu, fedora, suse and spins of those 3. I wouldn't put a normal user on anything else without extenuating circumstances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child) From what I can find, the Linux Mint website was breached once, in 2016, for a short duration and during that time the download link for the ISO referred to a site that was hosting a version that installed a backdoor. Meaning it was short in scope, the dev team reacted to it, handled it, and then were open and transparent about it, and it only affected people who downloaded the ISO at that exact span in time and also installed that version instead of replacing it when the announcement came. The harsh reality of IT security isn't that it's a question of if you get hacked, it's a question of when, even for multi-billion dollar companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago They got hacked a couple times before that though it may not be widely published. Mint originally existed as an "easier" and prettier unbuntu run by volenteers. They would be extremely unlikely to figure out they had been compromised by an APT. And before you say it, look up the 2016 hack, it wasn't an APT. permalink fedilink source parent [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Besides what other people said, manjaro breaks regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago Yup. Manjaro is infamous. Mint is dolled up ubuntu by volunteers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child) From what I can find, the Linux Mint website was breached once, in 2016, for a short duration and during that time the download link for the ISO referred to a site that was hosting a version that installed a backdoor. Meaning it was short in scope, the dev team reacted to it, handled it, and then were open and transparent about it, and it only affected people who downloaded the ISO at that exact span in time and also installed that version instead of replacing it when the announcement came. The harsh reality of IT security isn't that it's a question of if you get hacked, it's a question of when, even for multi-billion dollar companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago They got hacked a couple times before that though it may not be widely published. Mint originally existed as an "easier" and prettier unbuntu run by volenteers. They would be extremely unlikely to figure out they had been compromised by an APT. And before you say it, look up the 2016 hack, it wasn't an APT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago They got hacked a couple times before that though it may not be widely published. Mint originally existed as an "easier" and prettier unbuntu run by volenteers. They would be extremely unlikely to figure out they had been compromised by an APT. And before you say it, look up the 2016 hack, it wasn't an APT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Besides what other people said, manjaro breaks regularly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago Yup. Manjaro is infamous. Mint is dolled up ubuntu by volunteers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 point 6 months ago Yup. Manjaro is infamous. Mint is dolled up ubuntu by volunteers permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -18 points 6 months ago (1 child) Stupid fucking answer. I love Linux. I use it on multiple machines daily. It's not for an average user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago Correct, I wrote a decent comment about the actual issues with Linux for the average user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago Correct, I wrote a decent comment about the actual issues with Linux for the average user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent