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"And it currently seems like PM Kier Starmer is probably going to fall with him, since he apparently knew about Mendelson's continuing association with post-conviction Epstein."
we can hope.
The problem is that unless Labour finds the most competent prime minister in British history, the clock is ticking until Brits elect Prime Minister Farage. Association with pedophiles and bribery is only toxic for left wing politicians (including pretend-left like Starmer).
Or, they get a new party and win with it. Isn't Corbyn starting a new one? They just need a more populist, more cut throat type of Corbyn to lead the new party.
Because with this labour party in charge Reform is getting in, pretending they aren't betraying the country while they cancel the magna carta isn't going to change that.
And indeed starmer already did more damage than the tories did in over a decade. They are really taking this lesser of two dickheads strategy to an extreme just as it's reaching it's doomed to fail moment.
Corbyn‘s new party called Your Party was founded a few months ago. It’s a sectarian leftist party, already split between woke activists, socially conservative Muslims, and communist entryists.
The leaders Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn hate and work against each other openly.
Some important members are jumping ship and go to the Greens.
read some guardian articles on it https://www.theguardian.com/politics/your-party
Watch the party convention to get an idea of the culture.
What you need, is an economic populist, a real one not fake populism like on the right that scapegoats for the problems of the rich.
Just take the new party with a flood, and cut throat tactics to get control of the party enforcement mechanisms, fucking Corybyn never took control of it when he let the conservatives purge him and his supporters and the left out of the party often under demonstratably false allegations, as covered in Al Jazeera Investigates, The Labour Files, where someone dropped internal labour party emails. It would make your blood boil knowing how everything has turned out. This is all the conservative establishment inside labour's fault.
Either you purge them all our of the party as they did the left, or take this new party, get rid of the divisive social justice pc warriors in any position of visibility, and make the party populist reform that everyone agrees with. No one wants to get fucked by the super rich without their consent. That is what people care most about too, having enough money to live a dignified life, nothing else matters without that point.
Sideline everyone pushing points for the super rich that are meant to divide, unite around the simple messages of restoring working people to a dignified wage and way of life and forcing the rich to relinquish the license they got from capturing our governments and party half a century back.
Sorry but what is that opinion based on?
As a Brit I can assure you that a) he has absolutely most certainly not done more than the previous Tory governments to mess the country up. Lizz Truss, for only a single example, ruined the economy in 40 odd days. b) the prevailing opinion is not that he has been worse than the Tories. The reason many people say they want to vote Reform is precisely because they are a right wing party that are not the Tories.
I'm very curious as to what you think his government has done that is worse than the 14 years of austerity, wrecked public finances, crumbling infrastructure and over population that the Tories provided? Obviously you are entitled to an opinion but I struggle to see what facts it could be based on.
Cancelled the right to a trial by jury for up to 3 years in prison, from 1 passed in 2020, cancelling the magna carta without a fight.
Created a masterbaitorbase, to record every web page you have considered whacking off to, you know, for the kids.
Cancelling the right to protest in a disfavored protest, then doing nothing while serious charges are filed for taking part in sanctioned protests, and while defenses against those charges are disallowed. Another repudiation of the Magna Carta, without a fight, because it's "your" team.
Bad faith terrorism designations based on your politicians say so. Prosecutions under that, bad faith ones at that, laughing about them starving in prison with no trial date. etc.
What else seems like I'm forgetting something here. I shouldn't need to tell you the masterbaitorbase is just the beginning, that along with age checks they are going to put everything you say and do through half baked ai threat detection that will give secret social scores.
I don't have the energy right now to go through why this is all so bad, but you should already know that frankly, to a degree.
If you are happy about how things are going, I would suggest getting checked for taxoplasmosis.
I thought these changes were still in the proposal stage? They are bad though and I disagree with them.
I don't disagree with anything else you've listed. I'm just struggling to see how any of that is worse than what 14 years of a Tory government provided? On top of a ruined economy, failing public services, huge NHS waiting times etc. they also introduced the 9k tuition fees.
Are you a UK citizen? If so are you a particularly young one?
Because I can tell you now that if you were of voting age living through those Tory governments and you were living in the country, as me, you would be far more bitter about the 14 years of turning our country to shit than a year and a half of an incompetent slightly authoritarian Labour government.
The majority of people would say the same. The Tories were voted out by a sweeping majority in 2024 because of this. UK citizens loathed the party and a good deal many still do, hence the rise of Reform.
I understand why you are angry at Starmer's government and your criticisms are fair, but I do not at all believe that your opinion that his government, over one and a half years, has been worse than the previous 14 years of Tory governance is founded on anything tangible whatsoever.
No I am an american and it pisses me off I seem to be angrier about changes in the homeland than you guys are.
Jury trials, right to protest, are bedrock, non negotiable values, that your politicians are the first in the west to cancel them should be a concern, not the least as the first to adopt these rights.
I see. A lot of people do see it as concerning. We'll see if it actually goes ahead. Many people have made their opposition to it clear.
How do you feel about the current state of your own country and the values that seem to be at threat there, if I may ask?
Locking down the internet is a huge deal too, they are setting up every ip, every account, connected to a name and face and connected with all other information running it through half baked ai threat detection by companies like palantir to make secret social scores to determine everything. Not just there, everywhere, all this age verification, chatcontrol, it's trojan horses, (or trojan sheep as the case may be,) to employ these new ai tools, to surrender the population to tech for a cut of the information, which will surrender your information to the US as well make no mistake. Obviously yours in the UK is "ours" already my special partner!
Very concerned here obviously as one would guess. We are fucked, I don't want to see Europe also fall to fascists that have every intention of fixing elections for the worst people in the world to remain in permanent control. We will be helping your fascists, secretly and openly, any confidential communications with other candidates, scandals, etc, you should presume the US is sharing with the fascists to help them win, it doesn't matter how much starmer strokes off the president. All of these changes starmer makes are guarenteeing "reform" gets the vote for reform, just as the Republicans did here, as "our" politicians, labour and the democrats, are running as status quo and deeply unpopular and not trying to be popular.
The west is going to fall like dominoes barring some real leadership that is not forthcoming because we somehow still trust the controlled opposition of the oligarchs that have captured all of our parties. The far right backed by Putin and now the US are the only ones running as reform, as populist albeit more fake populist as they are mostly scapegoating.
We need real leaders now, even if in just one country, in the UK, in Europe, it can spread.
Sorry, what? In the UK? I don't believe that for a second, unless you have some irrefutable evidence for that. I could write an essay about why that's not true.
If that is happening it is by the design of the technology made by someone like Peter Thiel. The UK government would never knowingly allow such a thing to happen. There's no benefit and they risk being ejected from government if found out. It sounds ridiculous to be honest, sorry.
Likewise! I am very concerned just how easily the US has fallen to the right wing spell. Steve Bannon has been shown in the Epstein files as linked to helping all sorts of right wing parties in Europe, including Reform. Luckily we at least have more stringent campaign funding rules that America's "spend what you want".
That is the price America pays for ultimate freedom of speech. It is lauded as the peak of democracy there, yet that very protection is used to guarantee unlimited financing of political campaigns by PACS and the elite. It's actually a weapon turned against the people. But yeah. Freeeedom.
Not if citizens are wise to the manipulation tactics used i.e. social media. Many here are becoming aware. Rules are becoming more stringent. I have hope. Reform tend to do well in the less educated sectors of society. If we can educate them then they will see them for what they are. They thrive in poorer areas too. If the economy gets back to prospering then again, they will fade.
Mark Carney. His Davos speech was excellent. My hope os he starts taking the lead more with middle powers holding firm in the face of economic bullying from superpowers.
America and China cannot survive alone. They need the middle powers still, just less than the middle ones individually need them. As a collective though they have power.
My hope is the ties between EU countries grow stronger, hopefully we rejoin soon and we become a collective force.
That or Trump passes away amd MAGA fade into civil war. That would be nice.
I sense a dangerous level of willful disbelief. Things in the UK and EU are going to get worse. The fascists don’t follow rules, and most of your politicians have the same weaknesses as our controlled opposition.
Do not be complacent, because they are already in your midst with blades to your throats. They are preparing to cut.
Disbelief of what? That the UK government is keeping secret social scores on it's citizens? Yeah. Until I see evidence of that.
They are starting to police the internet more though. I personally think that's due to the huge amounts of misinformation used to manipulate the public via social media. I.e. The Southport Riots which were inflamed by spreading of lies about immigrants.
This is probably an unpopular opinion here but I think there should be more control. Peoples view of reality is being completely distorted by the internet and what they see and read. It will only get worse with AI and deepfakes. I personally think it does need more policing. There is a good documentary called "Hypernormalisation' by Adam Curtis that explores the reality distortion we experience. It is worth watching.
My political views are that one of governments main duties is to protect citizens from harm. That includes protecting them from business malpractices from social media companies and foreign influencers looking to destabilise the population. I believe our government should take action to prevent harm from those.
I am not being wilfully ignorant of what they are doing. I support it. That may make me unpopular here but so be it. I stand by that belief. I will change it if I am presented with tangible evidence of things like social ratings for citizens or nefarious uses of peoples information. I haven't seen any this far though. Feel free to send some if you have any.
Are you for age (ID) verification? Are you fine with no channels of privacy? Do you support things like chat control in the EU?
If you do, then you are blind to how these people think and operate.
Am I fine with age verification? Yes, I am. Especially for social media. I don't want children being brainwashed by right wing propaganda that is prevalent on there and I believe the state has a duty of care to protect citizens.
No channels of privacy? No, I am not fine with that. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that private conversations are not possible though, either via chat encryption or any other method. Is there any for the UK?
Chat control? I'm not sure. That sounds vague. I would need to know the specifics and what it's protective purpose is.
You are welcome to call me blind. You still haven't presented any evidence that the government is keeping secret social scores on it's citizens though, nor any evidence of state wide internet restrictions on privacy. If there is such evidence and I believe it is a threat to an open and democratic society then I will act.
The USA is currently descending into authoritarianism, in my view precisely because "freedom of speech" and freedom of ownership are so closely protected. Malicious forces can spread whatever messages they want and influence whoever they want with impunity.
My view is that the current UK government is not a threat to the people. The elites looking to purchase power and influence and eventually become the government are the biggest threat. Social media is their most effective weapon.
I would argue that if you can't see that then you are blind yourself.
I'm happy to agree to disagree though. Civility and all that.
Without answering all your points yet, you don't believe they are locking down the internet, doesn't speak well to your undertanding
You should know it's already been locked down in the UK for a long time, not just by Palantir either, over ten years, going on 20 really. But what they are doing now is different, and this information will be accessible to more groups of people, and is being done to utilize new technology that didn't exist back then.
I seriously think we are being dosed with some toxin making us trusting and docile because previous generations never would've stood for this.
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No, I believe they are policing the internet more than previously. The part I definitely don't believe is your idea that they are using this information to make secret social scores on citizens. That's a dystopian fantasy in my view.
Aside from introducing age verification checks do you have any evidence that it's being "locked down"? You're right in that my understanding is limited as I'm only aware of what our government has passed into law, not what people think is happening.
If you have some article or evidence that helps explain it I would be grateful.