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[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (6 children)

That's me too, an effect of Justice Sensitivity, a common trait among both ADHD and autistic people. Before I knew that I was both, I used to tell people that I was allergic to advertising, to convey my feelings about it.

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[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Dismissing righteousness as "justice sensitivity" is absolutely tragic to me. You're right to feel that way, don't change. The problem is with the system, not you. Applying a medical perspective is stigmatizing and self defeating. Your reaction is real, valid, and a far more sane response to these conditions than acceptance

"it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society"

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[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

I wasn't trying to dismiss anything. Just pointing out that it's a commonly observed trait in ADHD people. It's a scientific perspective to notice that people with certain neurologies tend to exhibit certain behaviors more often than people with other neurologies. It's not stigmatizing unless you are both generalizing and value judging.

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[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

It's a dehumanizing perspective to categorize experience by "neurologies" and look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level. You don't have "justice sensitivity", you're aware of overwhelming injustice. That's a good thing. Act on it.

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[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"Categorize experience"? That kinda sounds like that generalization I was talking about, which is not what this is here. It's a simple matter of "people in this group have a higher likelihood of exhibiting this behavior than people of other groups". Simple observation. It's not saying that only people in this group exhibit it, or even that all people in this group exhibit it. Just that more do. It's not even necessarily claiming direct causation. Maybe people in that group have experiences that make them more likely to exhibit that behavior, so that would make it environmental. But the cause is another discussion.

As for "look for problems at an individual rather than systemic level", I'm afraid that I don't know what you mean here. I wasn't talking about any problems. Are you referring to the injustices themselves maybe? Because that's a whole other discussion too. I'm talking about psychology, not politics or economics. (And while it's not relevant, yes, I am acting on it, and far more systemically than most people.)

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[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

I didn't mean to challenge or upset you and hope your day is going well. If you don't know what I meant by that we've got quite a gap to cross and I'd rather just wish you the best and move on. I don't like the ways that medical/psychological perspective shifts responsibility for social ills onto the individuals experiencing them and find an individual, political, or even economic (I guess) perspective far more liberating. Whatever you're doing I hope you're happy and it's working for you. It's hard to engage when you claim you aren't generalizing while defining groupings though

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[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago

I was not upset, I was just trying to clarify my position, and get clarity on yours. Normal discussion stuff. I understand if you don't have the energy/interest to continue though, since I still don't understand your position nor do you understand mine.

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