General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 6
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I think one thing that helps is studying more yourself, and only speaking on subjects you're confident in your own understanding. For example:
By what metrics? Socialist China is rising rapidly, and socialist countries do better than peer countries when it comes to quality of life metrics like life expectancy, despite increased international strain. I also recommend reading about some of the problems with the USSR and how it was dissolved, so you can prove that it wasn't simply because they were socialist.
Ask them to define this! What tends to help is highlighting how the communists, when in power, asserted the authority of the working classes. This is in stark contrast to capitalist systems, where capitalists assert authority.
Again, how? China has much higher approval rates, engages in win-win economic cooperation instead of naked imperialism, only has a couple overseas millitary bases while the US Empire has hundreds, and maintains a defensive millitary instead of offensive. Plenty to show!
People often focus on argument before becoming confident in study. The rest, like learning how to engage and reach people, comes with practice and time.
The Liberals had always been redefining words like dictatorship, Liberalism, Capitalism, and Socialism to suit their political agenda. They could say that Communism failed because the Communists did not make Pax Americana dictate their success or when the Communists takeover countries that are mismanaged by corrupt genocidal governments to transform them into economic superpower. The Liberals had been complaining that the USSR are so successful that the invisible hand is recruiting Soviets into key positions of Pax Americana. They declare that Communism failed because the Communists made Pax Americana employ repressive command economy to rig the market competition just to stop Communist takeover.
The Pax Americana dictate that Communist is authoritarian either because they oppose the fake democracy of Pax Americana or because the Communists oppose plutocratic command economy of Capitalism in practice. They claim that China is just as bad because the Liberals dictate that Pax Americana can decide what is the truth about other countries or because they assume that other countries is as bad or worse than the British diaspora and former European colonies.
Yep, half of talking with liberals is clarifying terms.
I agree that staying out of debates that I don't have much knowledge about should be better, however I can't just not respond when people spew misinformation about things. Even when I answer with "China is socialist" they counter by saying that it can't be since they have billionaires etc. It's exhausting.
I understand, comrade! For China, it's pretty important to clarify that public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes control the state. Looking into that more can help in explaining it.
theres a redsails writeup with this exact name. + literally existence of wealth and markets doesnt contradict marxist leninist theory u r dealing people who dont know shit about what is communism egalitarianism and the theory most socialist states exist by. obviously the vulgar idea of the communism button is fucking stupid. /nay im not mad at u
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tanks comrade :)
No problem!
im glad ur so willing to engage and call out misinfo. u should honestly be proud of urself /gen