cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/59469059

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[–] 52 points 7 months ago (9 children)

If I was on Patreon I'd tell them to pull the app. Fuck em they have a website.

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

    Right? You'd think Patreon would throw their weight against Apple, as this is clearly not in their best interest. Threaten to pull the app, and if Apple follows through, they get nothing. Alternatively, move payments entirely outside of the app and force Apple to either do something which is guaranteed to be extremely unpopular, or call their bluff. But they won't do these things or even try to negotiate Apple's cut.

    Apple may appear to swing the biggest dick here, but I am so disgusted by these weak companies just immediately bending over without a fight.

    As always, it's the creators who will be faced with hardship, but neither entity seems to give a shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Is It better for patreon to lose 30% of income from Apple pay, or to have Apple users not being able to pay unless they open the webpage and pay from there? Is it better for them to remove the app altogether and have users on Apple forced to use it through the website?

    I'd imagine they'd lose quite a bit of subscriptions if they did that. Is that more or less than 30% is something I don't know.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Is it better for them to remove the app altogether and have users on Apple forced to use it through the website?

    Yes. Clearly yes, for everyone. This sort of shit only continues because people don't do that.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I would imagine this would lead to having less users. Or people that use it less. It would also make the experience for users worse. As such it would lead to less subscriptions. It is not clear to me that this would be better. I'm not sure on whether it would be worse, but I doubt it'd be better for everyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You can already pay on the website. If you pay through Apple Pay and therefore pay the extra 30%, that's kinda on you at this point.

    Cunt move by Apple, but the in-app purchase payment processing going through apple only rule has been there for a long ass time, Patreon got pretty lucky that they were given so much leeway for so long.

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