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[+] -16 points 7 months ago (34 children)

Her primary problem was going for the left's vote when the left doesn't vote.

The only way to fix it is to go further right and pick up the voters who are disillusioned by Trump in 2028.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago* (32 children)

    the left doesn’t vote

    Terrible news for the Mamdani campaign.

    The only way to fix it is to go further right

    Can't wait for Pete Buttigieg to campaign on doubling the ICE budget.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (9 children)

    the left doesn’t vote

    Terrible news for the Mamdani campaign.

    Pretty much apples-to-apples comparison. They’ve got you there SMCF. It’s an accepted maxim that national Presidential races are exactly the same as mayoral races in NYC.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    Wait till you find out how many states Bernie Sanders won

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Not enough to win the primary?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    More than enough to win some of the biggest states in the country.

    But presumably without any leftist voters?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    39% of NYC's registered voters turned out to vote in the last mayor election and he got slightly more then fifty percent of the vote.

    I don't think that's the gotcha you're going for.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (19 children)

    That's not "the left", just voter apathy.

    Mamdani was the first to get more than a million votes in a mayoral election since the 60's. The 2021 turnout was less than 25%, 2017 was barely above 25%, etc. It has been more than 2 decades since there has been a level of turnout like was seen with Mamdani.

    It is, in fact, quite a "gotcha".

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago* (18 children)

    Mamdani barely got more votes than Trump did in NYC in 2024.

    He won with about 19.5% of the registered voters.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    With 6 other people to vote for, and the biggest mayoral election turnout in decades...

    Again, voter apathy <> "the left".

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (16 children)

    His primary opponent was Andrew Cuomo in NYC and he still was barely over fifty percent of the people who bothered to vote.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    people who bothered to vote.

    Oh look, you got it!

    Voter apathy <> "the left".

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    Oh I’ve always gotten it but I don’t think you have yet.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    Please, explain how the largest turnout in decades represents how "the left" doesnt vote.

    Just give me a minute to make some popcorn so I can fully enjoy this.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Most of them probably thought Mamdani wasn’t as left as their buddy’s roommate’s drug dealer so he wasn’t worth voting for.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Sorry, how does that explain a 20 year record turnout, or the highest number of votes for a single candidate since the 1960s?

    Youre going to have to break this down a little bit more here, clearly I still dont get it.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Liberals voted Mamdani to counter the republicans voting Cuomo.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    Previous election results show that liberals and more moderate conservatives voted for Cuomo, actually, considering Silwa's 20% slide.

    So sorry, it seems I'm still not getting "it".

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    It feels like we’re saying the same thing here.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Really isnt.

    Youre suggesting liberals voted for Mamdani.

    The math on that math just ain't mathing.

    I'm saying liberals, on the whole, voted for Cuomo. The previous voter turnout in 2021 equates to roughly the totals of Silwa and Cuomo.

    Districts that previously felt without representation voted in droves for Mamdani.

    I do not see how we are saying the same thing. I'd love an explanation for how "liberals voted Cuomo" and "liberals voted Mamdani" are the same (I wasn't an English major or anything, sorry), or how someone being actually left of the establishment drawing record numbers of voters is proof that "the left" doesnt vote.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    NYC Politics is fucking bizarre

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    It really is, but so is the population, which is why its kind of bizarre. Add to that ranked choice recently coming in, and new ways that some candidates (Cuomo) skirted and occasionally broke the law with regards to campaign funding using the local equivalent of super PACs and it gets real weird real fast.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    1.9 million liberals voted Harris in presidential election and about a million conservatives voted Trump.

    Cuomo and Silva had about a million votes (the conservatives) and Mamdani got a million of the liberals.

    Easy peasy math for you!

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Two different elections doesnt really cover that, no. Youre comparing a presidential election to a mayoral election, which is super weird, which occurred in different years.

    That's some really bad math IMO.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It’s the same voters though.

    True it is different years and candidates but the 2021 mayor race also was a different year with different candidates.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Presidential election years typically have a 55-60% turnout, while midterms are closer to a 40% turnout on the high end. Mayoral elections, as noted, haven't had a turnout this high since 2001.

    To suggest that the pool of active voters out of eligible for a presidential election is the same active voters for a mayoral election would also not be correct, its a different portion of the voting base that turned out. As I mentioned before, some areas (notably areas with a large POC population) had a substantialy different turnout.

    The liberals who vote in presidential and midterms then dont show up for a mayoral election remained largely unchanged.

    The increase in turnout was from eligible voters who are not active (apathetic), who were instead motivated to vote.

    So no, liberals did not get Mamdani elected. They mostly voted for Cuomo. In about the same numbers as other mayoral elections.

    Its important to look at like-to-like.

    Anyway, seems I'm not learning anything new here and I've got dinner to get ready, so enjoy your day. I'll be moseying along now.

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