Didn't know where to post this but man, I so get it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 67 points 7 months ago (42 children)

A South African billionaire spent 300million to get Trump to win. An Australian media mogal has been using propaganda to brainwash Americans, and the world, for the last 30 years. All of this is being supported by a Russian dictator that has control over his puppet, not to mention his puppets in other countries.

Go on an tell me more about how this is only America fault.

  • source
  • hideshow 42 child comments
  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Far right parties in Germany and France nearly took over their respective governments. America is just a bellwether of what is going to be commonplace in all developed liberal nations if we don't start sincerely addressing the wealth inequality.

    Fascism is a natural development in liberal democracies when too much wealth is distributed to the upper class. The upper class uses their wealth as political capital to maintain the status quo that benefits them the most. To counteract leftist movements they support the far right, and before you know it there are paramilitary groups out in the streets.

    This is going to happen in every country that promotes free market capitalism, starting with the countries with the least amount of social safety nets and most tax breaks for the ultra wealthy.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You, um, let them do it?

    How so, you ask? A cultural acceptance of hero worship, rugged capitalism, and global dominion. A lack of adequate reflexivity. Yes, it’s cultural, which puts some atom of power in every resident’s hands and mouth.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, it’s cultural, which puts some atom of power in every resident’s hands and mouth.

    It's not a culture war, that's just the dressing. It's a class war using nationalism and culture as a scapegoat.

    There's a reason why fascism is on a drastic rise across all western democracies. The monied class across all liberal democracies have acquired enough political capital to where they've essentially taken away all options but violence, another commodity they maintain a monopoly over for now.

    I'm sure your country is has a growing reactionary party riding the wave of right winged populism washing over liberalism, what are you doing about it?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    Sorry, bud, the cultural issues that led us here aren’t so much about your cultural civil war that is mostly just class war in disguise. It’s a both sides problem at the heart of the empire, the one where even the poor folks are okay with 800+ bases on foreign soil, etc.

  • source
  • parent
  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I don't think there was any "only" in the OC.

    But the ball certainly is still in the american peoples court.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, sure, the ball is in our court. But we're playing blindfolded against a gigantic prime Roger Federer who doesn't care if he "accidentally" steps on some of us, and half of our side actually wants to see giant Roger Federer win for some reason.

    I get it, empty apologies are meaningless. But posts complaining about said apologies and telling Americans "actually no, we see you all as a single mass of shit people that made your own shit bed and we want to see you sleep in it" is similarly unhelpful.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Roger Federer who doesn’t care if he “accidentally” steps on some of us

    I know a lot of young Ukrainians, who moved to my country because of this fear. I can understand the fear of death, of everything being taken away. They are the nicest people, and their decision will forever haunt them.

  • source
  • parent
  • [+] -15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (28 children)
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (12 children)

    Did they, though? Or has a generational institution of gerrymandering and targeted voter suppression simply become insurmountable?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago*

    or it was the opposition party putting up a shitty worthless candidate that was never going to win.

    because the democratic party is total delusional when it comes to understanding the issues American face and are concerned about. the republicans aren't.

    the republicans lie though. but most human beings would rather be lied to and listened to, than ignored and told to suck it up because they have it 'so good'.

  • source
  • parent
  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Gerrymandering has no impact on general elections though

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Do yourself a favor and google the terms “gerrymandering” and “voter suppression”. You clearly don’t have any idea what they are from your response.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [+] -18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oh look, another brainless clapping seal happily engaging in tribalism and ignorant guilt by association!

    You think you're so much better while using the EXACT train of thought Republicans use, who support Trump.

    Good job being exactly what you hate!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    He lost the popular vote. Both times.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    No, just the first and second times. He actually got more votes last year than Harris.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    That still doesn't defeat my point because it wasn't over 50%. Even if every single American voted with the same percentages, it STILL would not be a majority of Americans that voted for him.

    Thusly, to blame ALL Americans is nothing but ignorant guilt by association.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [+] -16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and 2020 which is probably what they were thinking of. Maybe don't assume someone is a moron when they're technically correct but say it confusingly. We're all lucky our brains work at all given all the bullshit we have to keep track of related to dictator cunt known as Trump.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    You know most people didn't vote for him, right?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)