▲ 905 ▼ Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report (www.extremetech.com) submitted 3 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 333 comments fedilink hide all child comments Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined
[+] downdog5@lemmynsfw.com -26 points 3 years ago (22 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] SoggyBread@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (5 children) Speak for yourself, there are still many who refuse to use subscription services for music and still store it on their phones permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Plex, baby! My server, my music, my streaming. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site -11 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago thats right, they use iPods... why wouldn't they use an iphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago I have a few hundred gb of music on my iPhone, I just transferred it over Wi-Fi lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago Why wouldn’t we? I’ve got 300, 400GB of music from my beloved private trackers (RIP WCD) but I choose iOS because of the privacy policy, longevity, and I don’t wanna have to fuck around with custom OSes to not give all my data to Google. My shit’s loaded up with music, and I’m hoping the next gen has 2TB models. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 27 points 3 years ago Lol, I'm sorry but this is just you thinking everyone is like you. Millions of people use their phones very differently. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago It doesn’t NEED more than that honestly. We’re not transferring massive music libraries to our mobile devices any more. Who's we? Did you survey every single iPhone user? I hate it when people act like they're the authority on any subject they are obviously clueless about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 2 points 3 years ago (5 children) This is absolutely wrong. The spec mandates that USB-C ports provides at least USB 3.1 support. Also USB-C is mandated for USB 3.1. So to be compliant every USB-C port must support USB 3.1 at least. And you cannot support USB 3.1 with anything other than a USB-C port. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago (3 children) Wtf are you talking about? The spec has a section specifically for wiring a USB 2.0 cable. Apple is one of the companies who wrote the USB spec and I’d find it pretty hard to believe they’d go against their own spec. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec. Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren't lying. Though the Google site does say: Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it's maximum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You must have replied to the wrong person because I’m not arguing the pixel doesn’t have 3.2. I’m saying the USB-C spec does allow for USB 2.0. The commenter I replied to is stating absolutely wrong information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ah my apologies permalink fedilink source parent [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago Section 2.2? https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%20R2.0%20-%20August%202019.pdf permalink fedilink source parent [+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 years ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago He’s right though? USB-C does NOT in any way specify capabilities or transfer specifications. It only specifies the form factor of the plug. The plug can be used for any number of things from USB2.0 or ThunderBolt4, to power transfer, hells, even things like analog audio can use the plug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) Is what your comment did. The connector is a usb-c connector. That is not the standard, just the connector type friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Literally the second sentence in your own source: The designation C refers only to the connector's physical configuration or form factor and should not be confused with the connector's specific capabilities, which are designated by its transfer specifications (such as USB 3.2). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Ok. Since we’re circumcising a mosquito here. The type c designation only refers to the form factor. That’s all. Type c does not refer to its capabilities. I am willing to bet you’ll find that information very early in what you linked me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Could you elaborate? Because I’m like… 90% you’re wrong. Oc is correct. The “c” in type c referred to the connector. Just like micro-b mini-b usb A,etc. USB 3 is the speed standard. As well as 3.1 (or 3.2 gen 1 it’s called now or some other silliness), 3.2 gen 2, etc. There are usb C cables that can do video, audio, some that have thunderbolt speeds. There are also usb c cables that only support usb 2.0. So if you can elaborate on why you believe otherwise, id appreciate it. the usb consortium has ridiculous conventions and I’m no hardware specialist. My knowledge on these is from USB consortiums training when I was a salesman. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoggyBread@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (5 children) Speak for yourself, there are still many who refuse to use subscription services for music and still store it on their phones permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Plex, baby! My server, my music, my streaming. permalink fedilink source parent [+] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site -11 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago thats right, they use iPods... why wouldn't they use an iphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago I have a few hundred gb of music on my iPhone, I just transferred it over Wi-Fi lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago Why wouldn’t we? I’ve got 300, 400GB of music from my beloved private trackers (RIP WCD) but I choose iOS because of the privacy policy, longevity, and I don’t wanna have to fuck around with custom OSes to not give all my data to Google. My shit’s loaded up with music, and I’m hoping the next gen has 2TB models. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Plex, baby! My server, my music, my streaming. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site -11 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago thats right, they use iPods... why wouldn't they use an iphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago I have a few hundred gb of music on my iPhone, I just transferred it over Wi-Fi lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago Why wouldn’t we? I’ve got 300, 400GB of music from my beloved private trackers (RIP WCD) but I choose iOS because of the privacy policy, longevity, and I don’t wanna have to fuck around with custom OSes to not give all my data to Google. My shit’s loaded up with music, and I’m hoping the next gen has 2TB models. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago thats right, they use iPods... why wouldn't they use an iphone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago I have a few hundred gb of music on my iPhone, I just transferred it over Wi-Fi lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago Why wouldn’t we? I’ve got 300, 400GB of music from my beloved private trackers (RIP WCD) but I choose iOS because of the privacy policy, longevity, and I don’t wanna have to fuck around with custom OSes to not give all my data to Google. My shit’s loaded up with music, and I’m hoping the next gen has 2TB models. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 27 points 3 years ago Lol, I'm sorry but this is just you thinking everyone is like you. Millions of people use their phones very differently. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago It doesn’t NEED more than that honestly. We’re not transferring massive music libraries to our mobile devices any more. Who's we? Did you survey every single iPhone user? I hate it when people act like they're the authority on any subject they are obviously clueless about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 2 points 3 years ago (5 children) This is absolutely wrong. The spec mandates that USB-C ports provides at least USB 3.1 support. Also USB-C is mandated for USB 3.1. So to be compliant every USB-C port must support USB 3.1 at least. And you cannot support USB 3.1 with anything other than a USB-C port. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago (3 children) Wtf are you talking about? The spec has a section specifically for wiring a USB 2.0 cable. Apple is one of the companies who wrote the USB spec and I’d find it pretty hard to believe they’d go against their own spec. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec. Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren't lying. Though the Google site does say: Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it's maximum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You must have replied to the wrong person because I’m not arguing the pixel doesn’t have 3.2. I’m saying the USB-C spec does allow for USB 2.0. The commenter I replied to is stating absolutely wrong information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ah my apologies permalink fedilink source parent [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago Section 2.2? https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%20R2.0%20-%20August%202019.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago (3 children) Wtf are you talking about? The spec has a section specifically for wiring a USB 2.0 cable. Apple is one of the companies who wrote the USB spec and I’d find it pretty hard to believe they’d go against their own spec. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec. Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren't lying. Though the Google site does say: Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it's maximum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You must have replied to the wrong person because I’m not arguing the pixel doesn’t have 3.2. I’m saying the USB-C spec does allow for USB 2.0. The commenter I replied to is stating absolutely wrong information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ah my apologies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec. Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren't lying. Though the Google site does say: Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it's maximum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You must have replied to the wrong person because I’m not arguing the pixel doesn’t have 3.2. I’m saying the USB-C spec does allow for USB 2.0. The commenter I replied to is stating absolutely wrong information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ah my apologies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You must have replied to the wrong person because I’m not arguing the pixel doesn’t have 3.2. I’m saying the USB-C spec does allow for USB 2.0. The commenter I replied to is stating absolutely wrong information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Ah my apologies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago Section 2.2? https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB%20Type-C%20Spec%20R2.0%20-%20August%202019.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 years ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago He’s right though? USB-C does NOT in any way specify capabilities or transfer specifications. It only specifies the form factor of the plug. The plug can be used for any number of things from USB2.0 or ThunderBolt4, to power transfer, hells, even things like analog audio can use the plug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) Is what your comment did. The connector is a usb-c connector. That is not the standard, just the connector type friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Literally the second sentence in your own source: The designation C refers only to the connector's physical configuration or form factor and should not be confused with the connector's specific capabilities, which are designated by its transfer specifications (such as USB 3.2). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Ok. Since we’re circumcising a mosquito here. The type c designation only refers to the form factor. That’s all. Type c does not refer to its capabilities. I am willing to bet you’ll find that information very early in what you linked me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Could you elaborate? Because I’m like… 90% you’re wrong. Oc is correct. The “c” in type c referred to the connector. Just like micro-b mini-b usb A,etc. USB 3 is the speed standard. As well as 3.1 (or 3.2 gen 1 it’s called now or some other silliness), 3.2 gen 2, etc. There are usb C cables that can do video, audio, some that have thunderbolt speeds. There are also usb c cables that only support usb 2.0. So if you can elaborate on why you believe otherwise, id appreciate it. the usb consortium has ridiculous conventions and I’m no hardware specialist. My knowledge on these is from USB consortiums training when I was a salesman. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brillekake@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago He’s right though? USB-C does NOT in any way specify capabilities or transfer specifications. It only specifies the form factor of the plug. The plug can be used for any number of things from USB2.0 or ThunderBolt4, to power transfer, hells, even things like analog audio can use the plug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) Is what your comment did. The connector is a usb-c connector. That is not the standard, just the connector type friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Literally the second sentence in your own source: The designation C refers only to the connector's physical configuration or form factor and should not be confused with the connector's specific capabilities, which are designated by its transfer specifications (such as USB 3.2). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Ok. Since we’re circumcising a mosquito here. The type c designation only refers to the form factor. That’s all. Type c does not refer to its capabilities. I am willing to bet you’ll find that information very early in what you linked me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brillekake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Literally the second sentence in your own source: The designation C refers only to the connector's physical configuration or form factor and should not be confused with the connector's specific capabilities, which are designated by its transfer specifications (such as USB 3.2). permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Ok. Since we’re circumcising a mosquito here. The type c designation only refers to the form factor. That’s all. Type c does not refer to its capabilities. I am willing to bet you’ll find that information very early in what you linked me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brillekake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Literally the second sentence in your own source: The designation C refers only to the connector's physical configuration or form factor and should not be confused with the connector's specific capabilities, which are designated by its transfer specifications (such as USB 3.2). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago Ok. Since we’re circumcising a mosquito here. The type c designation only refers to the form factor. That’s all. Type c does not refer to its capabilities. I am willing to bet you’ll find that information very early in what you linked me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeadlineX@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago Could you elaborate? Because I’m like… 90% you’re wrong. Oc is correct. The “c” in type c referred to the connector. Just like micro-b mini-b usb A,etc. USB 3 is the speed standard. As well as 3.1 (or 3.2 gen 1 it’s called now or some other silliness), 3.2 gen 2, etc. There are usb C cables that can do video, audio, some that have thunderbolt speeds. There are also usb c cables that only support usb 2.0. So if you can elaborate on why you believe otherwise, id appreciate it. the usb consortium has ridiculous conventions and I’m no hardware specialist. My knowledge on these is from USB consortiums training when I was a salesman. permalink fedilink source parent