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[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 119 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (2 children) I live in farm country, and pay for farm labor is usually very fair. It's seasonal work in remote locations, but the pay isn't bad at all. Also most the migrant farm laborers only stay for the season, that is if it isn't too hostile for them to try working the season in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] The_v@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay. I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I'VE WORKED, aren't lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) Your personal experience where you live is not how it is everywhere and is not everyones experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Indeed. But 'starvation' wages aren't typical in migrant farm work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago “Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (2 children) I live in farm country, and pay for farm labor is usually very fair. It's seasonal work in remote locations, but the pay isn't bad at all. Also most the migrant farm laborers only stay for the season, that is if it isn't too hostile for them to try working the season in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] The_v@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay. I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I'VE WORKED, aren't lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) Your personal experience where you live is not how it is everywhere and is not everyones experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Indeed. But 'starvation' wages aren't typical in migrant farm work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago “Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_v@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay. I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I'VE WORKED, aren't lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I'VE WORKED, aren't lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) Your personal experience where you live is not how it is everywhere and is not everyones experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Indeed. But 'starvation' wages aren't typical in migrant farm work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago “Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 8 months ago (1 child) Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children) Two local people shared different local experiences and I'm not sure why you think either is more valid than the other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 8 months ago This was exactly my point. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago There are some places where they are not ethical. There are some places where they are. They're both actually saying the same thing. I don't understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.” Uhhh...can you point to where I said that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) The other person started with "my local" you started with stating you live in farm country and most do this. Implying you are correcting the other person to state what is the norm when it's not. There are even documentaries about the slave labor of immigrants and their children. You didn't directly say it, but your words are implying this is what is normally is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I am a different person than that person. Also I disagree with your logic in regards to what they said, because that definitely isn't what I took away from it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) My bad I misread the name. And that's fine to disagree, but when I read "I live in farm country and this is what actually happens..." I read that as someone who is trying to come across as a subject matter expert attempting to provide clarity and set an expectation of what is the norm and what isn't. In this case their attempt fails because we know most farms are actually exploiting immigrants. Which is directly contrary to the other person's statement that most farms just have some seasonal immigrants labor. Something they actually did say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago How do you know "most" farms are exploiting immigrants? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) I meant the guy i replied to originally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago ...can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn't happen, either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Indeed. But 'starvation' wages aren't typical in migrant farm work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago “Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago “Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well. permalink fedilink source parent