For those who aren't familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn't be believed, or being influenced to believe something that's not necessarily in your best interests.

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[–] 65 points 9 months ago (24 children)

I believed the USA was a liberal democracy full of concerned citizens. I also had faith in the financial system at one point!

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  • [+] -32 points 9 months ago (20 children)

    So you just drank the socialist kool aid. Got it.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    You say socialist like it's a bad thing and it screams "I'm ignorant."

    If you hate socialism stop using the things socialism provides you. Mail, paved roads, power and water delivered to your house, fire and police, education, etc. Socialism is a big part of why our lives are so decent despite the capitalist hellscape the billionaires are pushing. They've lied to you that social programs are why your taxes are so high; they're high because the wealthiest among us aren't paying a fair share.

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    All of that is infact socialism. Taxing individuals and creating community services. It’s like the core tenant or our education system which is socialist, even if it failed to teach you that. It’s the core tenant of social security and Medicare. Those third rail policies that everyone loves? It’s socialism.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

    None of that is socialism but alright I guess every country in the world is socialist so you've got what you want.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    What’s the purpose of social security? A state run program to redistribute money from the working to the non working? A social safety net to protect vulnerable citizens.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    So what is the difference between that and communism?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Idk what’s the difference between Donald trump taking 10% of intel randomly and communism lol. Is seizing the means of production on behalf of the state a capitalism?

    Can you describe capitalism for me before I describe communism?

    Communism is a classless society imagined by Karl Marx and Circle jerked over for over a century by nerds and dictators who killed nerds alike. It’s also a strawman for people who don’t understand communism depending on who you ask. Now can you explain capitalism to me? I can understand being ignorant of communism, but I can’t understand being ignorant of the system that you live under, so could you please describe the basic economic system that you prescribed to?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No I'm genuinely asking for your answer on this because none of your definitions line up or make sense. You realised that your definition of socialism is so wide reaching that it covers communism as well as capitalism.

    Trump seizing 10% of Intel

    That is a communist move. Trump is closer to a communist dictator than he to a democratic liberal leader.

    Definition of capitalism. An economic system where most of the capital is owned privately and distributed through markets.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I apologize. I thought you were trolling or worse. Yea I generally think socialism is any government run program that redistributes resources for social goals. Like educating children and providing care for the infirm.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Socialism is when we say grandma shouldn’t die of poverty; communism is when we say eat the rich because grand ma died of starvations. Socialism can exist under a capitalist economy while communism cannot. Hope this helps, try reading a book sometime. Or using google maybe idk.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Thinking everything is a "hellscape" and only those in your group are enlightened enough to see a better way (those outside the group are "ignorant") is what most people refer to as "drinking the koolaid".

    Modern "socialism" is at best a grift, at worst a cult.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in...

    ...don't make me post the whole copypasta.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hahah socialism. Like subsidies for farmers who grow corn for ethanol? Or like subsidies for Amazon warehouses. Or should we only do socialism and when banks gamble to hard and collapse? Or socialism like getting a government/military jobs to avoid poverty?

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Fallacious reasoning. I could also reference Stalin, breadlines, and the fact that the greatest famines in human history were the result of the authoritarian nature of socialism.

    We could discuss the pros and cons of specific policies but instead the "socialist" kool-aid drinkers just tend to rant about capitalism = bad and therefore socialism = good without any grasp of any nuance or willing to do any critical thinking.

    For example, with ethanol growing corn pulls carbon out of the air, burning the ethanol of course returns it back. It's carbon neutral, which is significant because Global Warming is a real thing. Pulling oil from the ground and burning it is obviously not carbon neutral. Ethanol is a much better fuel than burning oil.

    Amazon was facing an anti-trust lawsuit: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/09/ftc-sues-amazon-illegally-maintaining-monopoly-power

    But something has changed in the last year, so now it's drill, baby drill and corporations like Amazon can bribe the government to look the other way on their anti-competitive practices.

    You've probably been convinced "both sides are the same" because that is the belief of your group. But it's in the the nature of cult behaviour to deny reality to conform to the group. Which is what the phrase "drinking the koolaid" is in reference to.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    You know I picked the strawman out while I was skim reading this bullshit. Just wanted you to know whatever you typed was a huge waste of time. Because of the straw man in the last paragraph lol. I did get a lol outta the ethonol rebuttal. 1/10 bait

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