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[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 child) Do you think repeating what I said is insightful? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) So do tell... when did the existence of a billionaire parasite class become an aspect of a socialist society? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) When a socialist society needed to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support and survive against external aggression. China endured its Century of Humiliation and then a genocidal occupation during WWII. The communists then had to win their civil war, only to immediately face U.S. aggression on their doorstep in Korea, plus hostile U.S. bases all over Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. In 1950 it was a poor, largely pre-industrial country with urgent, existential problems. How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support It's the second-largest economy on the planet, and is literally the largest state creditor. So at what point will the PRC be ready to actually do something that can be called socialism with a straight face? When their billionaires get tired of playing second-fiddle to a bunch of party bureaucrats, perhaps? How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? So... in your mind, concepts such as socialism and communism is "utopian..." not really realistic at all, correct? What is it that you really stand for, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) So do tell... when did the existence of a billionaire parasite class become an aspect of a socialist society? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) When a socialist society needed to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support and survive against external aggression. China endured its Century of Humiliation and then a genocidal occupation during WWII. The communists then had to win their civil war, only to immediately face U.S. aggression on their doorstep in Korea, plus hostile U.S. bases all over Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. In 1950 it was a poor, largely pre-industrial country with urgent, existential problems. How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support It's the second-largest economy on the planet, and is literally the largest state creditor. So at what point will the PRC be ready to actually do something that can be called socialism with a straight face? When their billionaires get tired of playing second-fiddle to a bunch of party bureaucrats, perhaps? How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? So... in your mind, concepts such as socialism and communism is "utopian..." not really realistic at all, correct? What is it that you really stand for, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) When a socialist society needed to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support and survive against external aggression. China endured its Century of Humiliation and then a genocidal occupation during WWII. The communists then had to win their civil war, only to immediately face U.S. aggression on their doorstep in Korea, plus hostile U.S. bases all over Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. In 1950 it was a poor, largely pre-industrial country with urgent, existential problems. How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support It's the second-largest economy on the planet, and is literally the largest state creditor. So at what point will the PRC be ready to actually do something that can be called socialism with a straight face? When their billionaires get tired of playing second-fiddle to a bunch of party bureaucrats, perhaps? How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? So... in your mind, concepts such as socialism and communism is "utopian..." not really realistic at all, correct? What is it that you really stand for, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago to develop its economy enough to maintain internal support It's the second-largest economy on the planet, and is literally the largest state creditor. So at what point will the PRC be ready to actually do something that can be called socialism with a straight face? When their billionaires get tired of playing second-fiddle to a bunch of party bureaucrats, perhaps? How quickly were they supposed to build utopia? So... in your mind, concepts such as socialism and communism is "utopian..." not really realistic at all, correct? What is it that you really stand for, then? permalink fedilink source parent